Is Haye too cautious to beat either Klitschko?

the valuev one was one where he did what he needed to get the title , the harrison one was making it 8 minute fight rather than a 30 second one , you cant take anything from that fight last night

 

He did beat Valuev comprehensively.

To anyone with eyes and sense.

I think the Audley fight was just a mixture of him waiting for an opening and also him wanting to end it in the 3rd round

 

Totally agree, hagman. Audley did nothing to show how Haye deals with a strong, tall opponent with a good jab. Haye just took his time, made sure Audley wasn't waiting to counter, then destroyed him.

It was painful to watch, actually.

 

The reason he was cautious against Audley was because he had a bet on the fight to end in the 3rd and he knew the slightest punch would send Audley tumbling to the canvas.

 

but bdid he tho:think

 

So he betted on round 3 but was planning on getting him out of there as soon as possible?:verysad

 

K2 are too consistent imo.

against Wlad, Haye needs to work his way past the jab and the follow up right hand.

I think he maybe slightly more cautious with Vitali simply because he is a better fighter and can fight on the back foot and doesn't look to clinch the instant his opponent comes forward.

 

As soon as haye lands on wlad its goodnight. But that is a big if....

 

Don't forget though that Haye himself is an explosive counter puncher who looks better against someone that actually tries to lead out with some kind of attack which both Klits will certainly do. Audley was beyond negative which made it difficult for Haye to find the gaps to land. I know Wlad particularly relies on the jab to control his opponent but Haye is much more illusive than anyone Wlad has fought and continually throwing the jab could give Haye the chance to counter with the big right

 

I don't think this is his main problem against Wlad. Being cautious helps him against Wlad. By using his movement he can keep Wlad falling short with the jab and try to frustrate a mistake out of the robot. Take Wlad out of his jabfest comfort zone and look for an opportunity. He's never going to win on points so this is a good strategy.

Different against Vitali though, he needs more activity there.

 

At HW Haye is never going to outwork (even at 15st) Vitali, imo, he's going to have to knock him out, if that's possible, which I doubt. My money would be on old man Vitali, even though he's clearly on the wane.