Teddy Atlas Attacks Pacquiao again after big win!!

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  1. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny is much more robust than Floyd and bone density says a lot about weight
     
  2. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    "Robust"? "Bone density"? LOL! Stop inventing excuses and unfounded biological vernacular to try and justify Druguiao's highly suspicious physical enhancements.
     
  3. crispjab

    crispjab I uppercut myself Full Member

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    ask ricky hatton...:good
     
  4. donutman

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    Do steroids make you better in the mental aspect of boxing? Because you have to be a SMART fighter to actually be a good fighter. It's not all physical.
     
  5. PH|LLA

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    you think he hasn't lost power? his KO ratio at 122 was 100%. In 10 wins, 10 knockouts.
     
  6. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    From watching that video, nothing Teddy Atlas says is incorrect, just speaking the truth.


    There are gonna be some who have suspicions about Pac and only he has the ability to prove them wrong, and for big money, so there must be a proper reason why he wont do that, and them being right is one possibility.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    alot of that is in fact incorrect. At the olympics, they don't take a blood test before the fight. They urine test, randomly, before the fight, and then take a blood test after the fight. Those are words coming out of Amir Khan's mouth regarding the testing that he underwent during the olympics.

    Also, Pacquiao agreed to be blood tested, only not too close to the fight. He agreed to be randomly blood tested during his training camp and also immediately following the fight.

    "nothing Atlas says is incorrect" is a false statement.
     
  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now that's an understatement.
     
  9. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yes Floyd was under 21, so was Pac hence the comparison. May is the naturally bigger man, yet when they were both 16 they were both fighting at 106. So using Floyd logic he's more suspect than Manny.

    So your assertion is that human beings are incapable of gaining muscle after their early 20's.......you're an idiot. At age 25 Pac was fighting at 126 and he would have been at least 10 lbs above that prob the high 130's. So 137-9lbs at 24/25 years old he's put on what, 6-8 lbs since 2004 in his mid 20's.
     
  10. FourtyOunce

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    He did not attack Manny
     
  11. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    from that video and from watching espn's fight series, it's obvious that teddy thinks there's a chance pacquiao uses steroids. the thing is, teddy has the right to his opinion, and I dont care what anyone says, he's a very knowledgeable person in terms of the fight game and life, but he has to approach things with more tact. he straight up brought pac's legitimacy into question after a tremendous win that probably made thousands more people boxing fans, on one of THE most watched sports television shows in all the world. for someone who benefits from the boxing game and it's popularity, I would think the last thing you want to do is support the idea that your pound for pound king might be using drugs to win fights.
     
  12. maracho

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    You just had to make do it again but thanks. Bone density and body weight are totally correlated. Bone density is partly genetic and partly environmental of coarse but Pacific Island robustness differences become more recognized after puberty. http://www.springerlink.com/content/j054614682474425/

    The more work you do the more dense and heavy your bones are and the more muscle they can hold.
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    More robust (bone density score of 15) than Neanderthals (bone density score of 13,5) and ancient West Africans (bone density score of 11). www.http://archives.pireport.org/archive/2006/July/taggaARRC.pdf

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  13. Houseof7GB

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    One cannot denigrate Pacfans...they bring much to the table, they elevate the discourse.

    As for Teddy Atlas, why such a wily street smart psychologist wannabe gives such credence to such envious, malicious and obvious attempt by the unstable floyd sr. about this ost crap...I can think of two possibilities: one, he is interested in using this issue as a legitimate psych warfare on behalf of his protege, alexandr povetkin, in his future dealing with the Klit bro, with vitali acknowledging ped usage for accelerated healing post arthroscopic knee surgery or two, he is just an attention grabing piece of amphibian sht. The former require a degree of intrigue, maliciousness and forethought so befitting such a criminally inspired scar faced blofeld like character such as Atlas.
     
  14. johnnydrama

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    PAC is a politician.....he's simply being politically correct. PAC has proven without having to say the words that he wants the fight with Floyd. The stage is set, the demand is there. Floyd is the obstacle so all PAC did was say that he wants the fight but if Floyd doesn't that's fine. He's legacy is solid with or without Mayewather on his resume.

    Floyd after his fight with Shane and after JMM did the same exact thing saying it's up to his management. Most fighters in that position have the same protocol. They say they want it, but it's up to their promoters.

    And NO......it's obvious that NO one can make Floyd do what Floyd don't want to do. No matter if it's $40 Million or $100 Million...the only thing that is more important than "MONEY" in Floyd's life is his ability to CONTROL his own life.

    And by facing PAC...after the promotion is done....all the trash talk is through and the testing drama is a memory.....that bell is gonna ring for round ONE and that's why Floyd's ABILITY to CONTROL his life will no longer be present. That's very uncomfortable for Floyd to even think about.
     
  15. ecdrm15

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    Telling it like it is:deal