how do you guys view badr hari ?

He's a great fighter and exciting to watch, corrupt as hell though, def involved with the wrong people.

 

Wasted talent in an average era. His chin is pure glass.

Watch Peter Graham break his jaw with the rolling thunder kick.

Would love to see Nathan Corbett fight him. :!:

 

I'd hardly call being KOed by the rolling thunder landing plum a sign of a bad chin.

Hari's just an aggresive risk taker and as a result he leaves alot of openings, less so in the last couple of years though as he's focused more on his boxing.

The match that sums up Hari best although as I said his boxing has clearly improved since...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeCMaNEMe5g[/ame]

 

I think you people mistake K1 with boxing. KO's are quite frequent in K1. I don't think there is even one K1 fighter that hasn't been KO'd at least 1 time in their carrier. Badr is a good fighter but he still needs to improve his defense and also his private life is a mess!

 

he has been ko'd more than a few times though, throughout his career.


very true, at times he can be extreamly wild.

 

Excellent offensive fighter with genuine knock out power. Defensively though he is lacking a bit and his chin seems a bit suspect. He's also mentally weak, losing his temper if things don't always go his way and outside of the ring his life seems a bit of a mess. He could very well be a future K-1 champion.

 

And I am not stating he has a glass jaw because of one fight. If you want to call him a great K-1 fighter then objectively compare him against a true great such as Ernesto Hoost, Peter Aerts or Schilt.

Facts are Hari has been down many times and does not stack up against greats. An exciting, inconsistent fighter who is also a bad sport. Sells tickets these days.

 

While what you say is true, I think your being a little too negetive..... though Hari probably deserves your harsh critizm.

I just hope badr hari can mature mentally before he is past his best. though I know its unlikely.

 

Badr's one of my favs.

In his first kickboxing fight, he was brutally knocked out in the first round and had his jaw broken in the process.
A normal fighter would've changed his style or abandoned the sport altogether, but Badr persisted and came back to channel his aggression with better technique to win his next couple of fights.
Then, back in 2006, he was brutally knocked out again by Peter Graham and had his jaw broken for a second time.
Considering how many traumatic injuries to the jaw he's taken, it's easy to understand why he's so chinny.
Badr would go back to the gym after this loss, switch trainers/camps, and continue to work on improving his technique and fighting style.

Eventually, he became one of the best kickboxers of this era. In fact, legendary trainer Thom Harinck once said that Badr had more natural talent than Peter Aerts and Branko Cikatic combined (that's the equivalant of saying that a basketball player has more talent than Jordan and Johnson combined).

Badr's style is highly reminiscent of Melvin Mahoef's (who, coincidentally, is a member of his camp). He either knocks out his opponent or gets knocked out in the process. In early 2009, Badr fought Semmy Schilt for the "IT'S SHOWTIME" belt and knocked him out in one round. Unfortunately, his hot temper has gotten him into plenty of trouble and he recently withdrew from this year's K1 WGP due to legal problems. Badr is currently in jail in Holland in connection to the brutal beating of a club bouncer that happened earlier this year.

 

LOL at "best kickboxer of this era". To be called the best of an era you have the pedigree of Hoost - not the inconsistency of Hari.

BTW Thom's description is a back hander if you know him. What he is actually saying is that despite all the talent he is a waste of time.

 

First off, I said "one of the best kickboxers of this era", not "the best".
Second, to be honest, this era of kickboxing isn't as stacked as it was back when Hoost was tearing up ****.
I'm not calling Badr the GOAT (which he most certainly is not), but in THIS era of K1, he's definitely number 2 or number 3 depending on whom you ask.

And yes, Thom's description is a little biased considering that Badr was his protege at the time he made that comment. I'm not sure of the whole story, but rumors are that Badr and Thom had a bad falling out.

 

well to be fair even greats like Aerts and Hoost have been down and out many times as well. Any fighter that continues fighting at the highest level is going to lose from time to time. We'll have to see what kind of longevity Hari's career has before we can stack him up against the all time K1 greats like Aerts, Hoost and Hug.

 

In terms of achievement right now I'd say he's around the Filho level but really the main thing thats holding him back isnt lack of ability/chin but rather his own instability.

 

I would agree with that comparison. When you win multi GP's and dominate or consistently top 3 for a number of years then you could be called a great. Hari has done neither, may do so in the future but I don't think so.