You know there is a science behind improving fitness, we understand more all the time and add to what we already know and can prove. Trying new things should be encouraged. It's not a matter of what's wrong, it's about how you can improve on old ideas and get better results. Saying I'll run 10 miles a day because the old timers did it is the equivalent of saying I believe the earth is flat because the people back in the day believed it and they got by alright.
This. That's the wierd thing about boxing, the coaches and boxers themselves, they seem to want to stay in the past and not advance the sport and try new things. Just because something works doesn't mean it can't be improved upon!
I recall reading Holyfields conditioning guy talking about how dumb old time fighters where...only doing long slow runs. Then years later I read dempseys book...and he had a few slow runs in it...even just going out and hiking..but he also had sprints...slow runs with fast short sprints up hills...jogs, sprints, shadow boxing, then jogging some more...push ups...another sprint....
Depends what you mean by "long slow runs". Unless you're going 12 rounds you don't really need to go over 3-4 miles at a decent pace, "slow runs" are pointless.
I think slow runs can be useful if you need to drop weight...also to get you at a certain baseline condition.
:huh I'm agreeing with you and all the other guys in the thread saying long slow runs aren't the be all end all. My point is that not every theory should be taken as gospel because what we believe as 100% truth today could be proven false in the future. Experimentation is the most important thing. Whether the modern science agrees with it or not, there are plenty of guys who ran slow and long who had great stamina.
Allot of what we think is new is really old with just fancy names. Polymetrics is mostly just good old fashioned calastertics and medicine ball work.
Pk I do 1-2 sprint sessions a week hardly any long runs at the moment don't feel I need to! In too many of my fights I took a runners heart and lungs into my fights and it did me no good- as said previously my recovery was amazing but my onset of fatigue was super quick. Since doing much higher intensity program my output and strength have improved massively- i highly recommend this method of training
Spar jeff big mouth. Btw running is good for coordination aswell as psych reasons(im big on mental for some reason).
What are peoples thoughts on rowing, in general though for fitness? How does it translate to boxing for explosivness and stamina etc? Rowing, for me, is so mentally exhausting after a while. Love it myself though.