Greatest Old Man Boxer.

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  1. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    But Moorer beat this version of Holyfield in 94:

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  2. :tired :tired I AM SAYING THAT FOREMAN WAS COMPETENT AGAINST PRIME HOLYFIELD 91, AND ARCHIE WAS DESTROYED BY PATTERSON,MARCIANO AND GREEN ALI. AND PRIME HOLYFIELD 91 WOULD BEAT ALL THEM.
    AND I AM SAYING THAT MICHAEL MOORER WAS BETTER THAN PAVLIK,TARVER SHOT JONES OR WINKY.
     
  3. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    agree to strongly disagree i guess.
     
  4. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    that came and went. turned out he was fine. but he did have an actuall shoulder injury in that fight.
     
  5. calzaghe is one of the most overrated boxers ever. Morrison knocked out riddick bowe sparring, he faced prime lennox lewis,donovan ruddock,ray mercer,old foreman(tyson did not have balls to face him), pinklon tommas,james tillis...

    Calzaghe would have been exposed by prime jones or prime hopkins or any prime legend.

    THEY BOTH WERE CHAMPIONS, SIMPLY GOOD BOXERS, I DO NOT THINK THAT JOE WAS BETTER THAN TOMMY.
     
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  7. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Stupid is his 1st language :lol:
     
  8. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    that statement is fine about thinking they are both around the same level. but you seem to state your opinion as fact. 'calzaghe wouldve been exposed by prime hoopkins.' 'evander wouldve beat marciano, patterson, and young ali'. these are not facts. these are opinions that only exist in your head and maybe others heads. calzaghe beat some notable fighters and was reigning champ until he retired.

    ps - sparring is just sparring. most professionals spar to work on things they've been practicing. im sure that it was good for his ego, but thats it. there's footage of mayweather jr getting beat by paul spadafora in a sparring session. doesnt mean anything historically.
     
  9. lefe

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    Im not so sure that Holyfield would have easy job to beat Marciano,Patterson or Ali from 1962.And prime George Foreman lost to the past prime Ali if you want a facts.And George Foreman got gift UD12 in his first defence with Axel Schulz.You think that Schulz was better than Marciano,Patterson or Ali.I love George Foreman and in my opinion he is one of the greatest heavyweights but you disrespect all other fighters.Archie Moore was better older fighter with better speed,skills reflexes than George Foreman.Look at Archie Moores record
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    = 220.He had 220 fights.And look at boxrec ratings P4p all time [url]http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?country=&sex=m&division=P4P&status=E&SUBMIT=Go.And[/url] he became lightheavyweight champion 1952 at 39 years of age to 1961 at age of 47.
     
  10. lefe

    lefe Active Member Full Member

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    I completely agree.
     
  11. not i think that your died grandmother(dirty *****) is stupid ;)
     
  12. the facts are ali 74 was x 10 times better than the kid ali 62, and ali wanted no part of the rematch with george.and if you want talk on prime foreman, he would ko marciano,patterson and archie in the same night.
    Foreman was did beat axel by sd, no patterson might beat any version of george foreman, really i think the old foreman who faced holyfield in 1991 would beat marciano. Styles make fights. And like i said... Michael moorer was a better victorY than any victory of old archie moore
     
  13. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    And here I thought we were gonna have a nice discussion about veterans.

    Thanks, combatesdeboxeo.
     
  14. you have your opinion and i have the mine,fine, i know perfectly the boxing history and i think that foreman is the best old boxer for sure.
     
  15. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I'm not sure what to believe about that fight in all honesty, but Holyfiled looked incredibly poor physically and was having visible shoulder/chest pain. Moorer was not terribly impressive either, the win was hardly convincing.