Proof that being muscular/bigger doesn't fit into the equation...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by DaveK, Nov 17, 2010.


  1. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    I keep seeing a certain poster (we all know who this is) who manages to cite muscularity and size into the equation when comparing abilities or matchups, etc...

    It makes me think of Trinidad vs Joppy every time. I remember having this fight at my house and a house full of non-boxing fans and occasional watchers of boxing.

    Before the fight, everyone but me and a buddy of mine was shaking their head in refusal to think that Trinidad, with his not-nearly-as-flattering-physique would have a chance against Joppy, who looks very muscular and athletic.

    We all know how that turned out for Joppy and how much being able to bench press more that Trinidad (presumably) and all that extra muscle actually helped him...


    There are probably countless examples of this same thing-


    I'd like to hear some from you experts here in Classic, and maybe include examples of fights where physique isn't necessarily the hang-up, but something overwhelming to the amateur eye like punching power, like Quarry vs Shavers for example, is rendered null and void because of other factors like overall ability/skill, experience, etc...

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  2. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Trinidad is a good example. He had a large base though where a lot of his power came from, but he generated his power, specifically with his lefthook, with very good technique.
     
  3. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    Great example.
     
  5. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    shannon briggs vs....anyone

    jameel mcline vs chris byrd

    ray mercer vs tommy morrison

    buster douglas vs mike tyson
     
  6. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    Holmes vs Weaver is another.
     
  7. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    Hell, Baer vs Carnera!

    Any casual observer would say that goof-ball Baer is gonna get himself killed; Carnera's bigger, stronger, WAY more muscular...

    It didn't go his way, though.
     
  8. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    ok...i'll play...

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  9. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    doug, you git, i was just going to mention this:twisted::lol::good
     
  10. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  11. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Douglas was bigger than Tyson!

    Tyson vs Berbick, Bruno, Ruddock, Golota

    Dempsey Vs Willard.
     
  12. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    Tito is a good example. But i think the obvious 2 are Ray Robinson and Joe Louis. Both are possibly the hardest punchers p4p and both had lean bodies without being heavily muscled.

    If you have good punching technique, you're gonna crack people even when you're exhausted in a fight. For those who tense up, and like to throw with muscle, you lose speed and it takes more energy.
     
  13. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Calzaghe-Lacy.

    Manny picked Lacy to beat Calzaghe just based on Lacy's physical appearance.
     
  14. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    true, but he sure wasn't as muscular :good