Nobody with a poor/leaky defense is going to beat Mayweather..................

Well theres a couple people on here that understand it. :good It has nothing to do with being a fan or a hater, its just stylistic matchups. That doesnt mean Pac cant land something big, but anyone who thinks Pac is going to outbox or dominate Mayweather with his attributes is crazy.

 

It seems like you have already convinced yourself, and are unwilling to consider the very real possibility that you are wrong, and that Roach will be able to provide Pacquiao with exactly the right tactics to defeat a good but beatable fighter.

Do you really think that Manny is going to let Floyd "slide away"? Floyd no longer has the foot speed to do this effectively for the full 12 rounds. He will land the lead right, but he will always find himself getting pinned back and hemmed in by the fastest, busiest, most explosive, most accurate fighter he has ever fought.

You seem to completely discount the physical side of this fight. Boxing is a physical sport, remember. Floyd may have better technique than Manny, he may have a better defence, but boxing is not purely stylistic, much like it's not purely physical, nor purely mental. Whether you think so or not, Pacquiao's power is going to make Floyd very wary about opening up and getting hit, Pacquiao's speed is going to seriously trouble Floyd and make him try to shell up at times (and then we will see if Roach is right or if you are right about the shoulder-roll), and Pacquiao's workrate is going to make Floyd seem negative and withdrawn for much of the fight.

Don't convince yourself. Take time to consider both sides. Floyd has never, ever fought a southpaw with Manny's combination of speed, power, workrate and stamina before. That cannot be disregarded.

 

emmanuel's workrate can be controlled with well timed and precise counters!

 

Exactly! Cotto did it in spurts but isn't as skilled as PBF nor does he have the stamina. I see this as a one-sided beating after 5 rounds or so. With Pac begging PBF to stand and trade and PBF doesn't oblidge him and continues his clinic. Pac is not long enough, too one-dimensional and doesn't have the experience of fighting guys with good defence, fast hands and who are just as good of an athlete as he is. It's a very humbling experience when you do for the first time and that will be the case for Pac in this fight.

 

The shoulder roll can still be used against lefties whenever the distance is proper!

 

Having watched Floyd fight throughout his career, I do not understand how you can think he is going to have the courage to fight Pacquiao in the centre of the ring. He tried to fight Jesus Chavez at his own game, found it too difficult, and started running and fighting off the backfoot. He tried to fight Jose Luis Castillo at his own game, lost the fight, got a gift decision, then backpedalled for the full 12 rounds in the rematch.

Floyd will be absolutely determined not to get hit cleanly by Pac, because his own ego will not allow him to suffer at the hands of Pacquiao what he suffered at the hands of Chop-Chop Corley or Shane Mosley (ie: a severe case of spaghetti leg syndrome). And when Floyd doesn't want to get hit, he runs, backpedals, and tries to snake out counters from behind his defence.

Unfortunately for him, in Pac he will be facing a very fast, very busy southpaw.

 

I agree. PBF is all wrong for Pac and I'm glad there's still a few people on ESB who can call it like it is.:good The ones who think PBF will just stand right in front of Pac and won't make Pac pay for his lack of defense and one-dimensional style are kidding themselves and are setting themselves up for heartbreak. This had boxing lesson written all over it.

 

Floyd doesn't have the power to worry Pacquiao, not at all. If Manny has to take one to get Floyd where he wants him, he'll take it and unleash a combo when the time is right.

 

I rather have extremely good accuracy and timing over a lot of power.

 

Again I agree. His best chance is to get PBF within the first 3 rounds because after PBF adjusts and figures Pac out it's over. PBF will take Pac's left hand away outbox him and cruise down the stretch.

 

I wouldn't, not when I'm getting landed on more than ever before, and the punches are hurting and weakening the legs.

 

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PAC's offense is his defense.:deal

 

emmanuel has been stopped in his tracks by good accuracy and timing before! Mayweather's bodyshots will hurt emmanuel and weaken emmanuel's legs!

 

what i am wary of is more of floyd's movement. he likes to place his body in akward angles and positions, like turning sideways, bending too low or bowing down. he's very quick and could disrupt anyone's offense through this alone. i see floyd simply ducking when pac goes offensive, the fist 1-2 punches overshoot, they lock, then the ref has to break 'em. this could go on for 12 rounds :-(