Nobody with a poor/leaky defense is going to beat Mayweather..................

I think it will work a treat against Pacquiao...if you look at his bouts since De La Hoya, whenever Manny has been caught...it has been when he has had his back to the ropes, or when he is on the back foot (if I'm remembering rightly). If Mayweather can time it when Pacquiao attacks, and catches him unawares with accurate lead rights, etc...there's a chance he could hurt Pacquiao.

But like someone has said earlier in this thread...Mayweather needs to avoid Manny's left hook at all costs, I doubt he can take the left hooks that Margarito took on Saturday.

 

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Well he needs to land that lead right first of all...then I guess (and hope) we will see what happens after that.

Also, Pacquiao seems to be fighting in spurts at Welter ("and higher")...Mayweather needs to take advantage of this with 2 or 3 of his usual long lead rights to body and head. He needs to show the same willingness to trade (up to a point) that he showed against Mosley.

 

Great thread Gooners. Anyhow as I've gone thru I haven't seen anyone mention how Manny's face busts up and how the body is a huge key on slowing him down. Floyd becomes a body punching machine against southpaws . I also see how people think Floyd lost his legs. From his peak a boo high guard Floyd was still able to dart backwards fast as hell to avoid every single over hand right Shane threw after the 2nd round. I feel that he can do the same with Manny's left. As far as Manny's Lead right hook is concerned ......Floyd is not Margarito. Manny was most sucessful landing that shot by making Margarito follow him then catching Margarito when he least suspected it. The equally sucessful landing of his right hook was when slow ass Margarito threw a jab. Manny would lean back and use his faster handspeed to get it in leading to devastating combinations . This can be dangerous early on but I feel Floyd easily reads this and makes Manny ineffective with a plethora of gadgets. Feinting,clinching,countering ETC.

 

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pac's offensive output will drop in this fight!

 

Definitely, like I said with Margarito v Pacquiao...if Pacquiao's back hits the ropes and he doesn't try to maneuver himself to the centre of the ring straight away, Margarito can and will hurt him. Same goes for Mayweather, Mayweather's defense is great...but if he sits on the ropes for long periods like he did against say De La Hoya...the speed and variety of combination's Pacquiao throws will win Manny the fight.

 

castillo beats floyd!! DLH who pac dominates almost beat floyd!!

Now look for floyd nuts and lets get it on!!!

 

Leave the thread, there are people actually debating here.

Edit: That sounds harsh reading it again...but too many of these threads get turned into Mayweather's fans v Pacquiao's fans, but this thread is not one of them. :good

 

It's not a stylistic mismatch. The problem is you're only focusing too much on what Floyd can presumably do well against Pac...which is control distance with his jab and counter. Well the problem with this is, this is Pac...not Marquez, not Shane. Pac has the most dynamic offense in the game. Don't be fooled that he has shorter reach. He beats people up from distance. You can't just expect Floyd to control Pac with a jab.There is plenty of video-proof that suggests that Pac can outshoot a left jab with his straight left, i.e Cotto.Hoya fights. It's like he knew they were gonna throw it before they did. Don't incorrectly assume that Pac is not a rangey fighter when in actuality he has proven he is better than taller longer guys fighting from distance. Pac's legs allows him to be always in motion and never static...this is key.

It is easy to time and counter an offensive fighter if he is always coming in a straight line and doing the same things. Pac comes at you from angles sometimes potshotiing, sometimes ratlling of 3,4,5,6 punch combos, and sometimes loading up. And he just doesn't come in at one speed...he'll slide in, bounce out....glide right than flick a left or feints and throw, even do an Ali shuffle. Then sometimes he'll bait you by playing possum at the ropes or just letting you hit him to get you to exchange. Pac can also fight inside and has done a lot of damage with that short right hook. Really, Pac can box. brawl, dance....and he never gets flustered or frustrated and will do this for 12 rounds. In short he is unpredictable and fearless. To say that Floyd is gonna figure him out easy after a few rounds is ridiculous. Yes Floyd is great...he is a thinking man's fighter, but so is Pac and when they meet in the ring Pac will be giving Floyd alot to think about....and when you think too long against Pac usually you're at the tail end of a 6 punch combo.

 

Yes, you did indeed say this to me, but it very much gives the impression of a neat little statement you've decided on but which doesn't actually make much sense in reality.

In reality, if a very fast fighter with great footwork comes forward, looking for the opportune moment to unleash a very hard, very fast combination, and then shoot back out of range, how exactly is that going to make it easier for a fighter with slower feet to "slide away"?

And how easy is it going to be to "slide away" when that same fighter then leaps forward into blinding-fast action again, then shoots back out of range again?

Whether you think Floyd can time Pac and deal with this is one thing, but the implication that Floyd can just "slide away" is bogus. It would take someone with extremely fast feet to do this, and Floyd no longer has fast enough feet, if indeed he ever did have fast enough feet to put sufficient distance between himself and someone as rapid as Pacquiao.

Floyd's hands are still extremely fast, but I do not believe his feet are.