Putting on weight

What? ******ed assumption sums up everything you've ever posted here.

 

Ylem, to be honest you're lucky this is a boxing forum where only a few really have any clue. I don't think you realise how stupid and uninformed you really are. If this was a fitness forum you'd most likely have been banned a while ago for being a troll.

 

in your opinion.....which isnt all that much.....ill continue with boxing you can continue teaching people how ruin their boxing.

you make baseless points that have no relation to boxing what so ever.

have you ever boxed in your life?

your nothing but a worthless physical therapist that has no idea what the sport is like.

join here:

www.bodybuilding.com if you want to help people....cause everything you have to say does nothing but destroy a persons ability to box.

really neither of you are qualified to give any one adivce on boxing and boxing related training with virus who cant do anything but nuthugg on other peoples posts and you who cant accept anything out side of what youve been told by other people....nothing but mindless drones creating a world of **** boxers.

this might be a thread about gaining weight but this is a boxing forum....and your lucky that half the boxing world dosnt have the time to point out howw immensely wrong you are because their busy boxing...

 

trolly trolly trolly troll!!!!!! thats what you are, your realize this of course right when was the last time you actually posted a point or an opinion about something in stead of circle jerking all over other peoples posts?

Never? almost 1500 posts and not a single valuable post.

 

Sorry to burst your bubble (you obviously thought you had something with this post) but I don't give boxing training help, I give very basic weight training and conditioning information. You'd realise this if you actually read my posts.

And I'll ask again, show me where I'm wrong...

 

did you say something? i could have sworn you typed something....oh well im sure if there was something there it would have been wrong.

 

We no friends no more? :|

 

As a beginner you should be adding weight every time you lift, not every couple of weeks. As a beginner you don't know your 1 rep max which you'll need to know to train optimally. Add weight until you find your 1RM then your training changes.

Why do you think 90kg bench press was your limit? That really isn't very much. I don't mean that as in you're weak, but with the correct training you can get up to well over 100kg with no trouble.

Also, how much were you squating and deadlifting?

You don't have to lift heavy to build muscle. A set of 100 reps with a moderate/light weight will build some muscle.

What is "that point"? I very much doutb you got to your genetic potential. And you can do supersets any time, nothing special about them experience wise.

 

Look the big egghead is starting to crack I've forgotten more about boxing than you know. You box in your garage and make up your own theories that have no basis in reality. I don't even have to say anything, you're a joke. People might be a bit more friendlier to you if you didn't come off as so ignorant and arrogant. There is nothing wrong with not knowing something but when it's pointed out to you that something you're saying is incorrect you can't accept it and you make up your own ridiculous theories. It's a good trait to question things but when you totally disregard some basic well established facts just because you don't want to come off as wrong then you just come off as a complete moron. If you want to advance your understanding of boxing and conditioning then try dropping the ego and try learning. I don't know if I want to see you change though, I enjoy laughing at you and the idiotic things that you make up. I'm unsure yet if you're real or just a troll.

 

I think I'll co-sign this.

At first I thought he was just ignorant and plain dumb, but he had me fooled :-( I hope he's a troll anyway for his own sake, if he isn't I hope he doesn't impregnate a poor woman and breed, that'd be a step back for mankind...

 

from my experience i found super sets very good for building muscle and building strength and getting the most out of a set. For example i would shoulder press do my 6 rep max, then instantly grab a lighter weight do another 6 rep max and so on and train till failure. I found the process very good. I'm not saying i trained like that every session but used it a fair bit on all body parts.

The reason i say 90kg was my max bench is because it was my 5-6 rep max, i used my super set routine doing chest as well. i would get 5-6 reps at 90kg, then take some weight off, max that and so on. I'm not sure what my 1 rep max was prob 100kg but i never trained for one rep and 90kg isn't that light, there was heaps of bigger dudes then me who didn't even lift that. i was 70kg lifting well over my body weight.

and as a beginner i was adding weight constantly maybe every 2 weeks wasn't 100% accurate but was definitely adding weight quick. And to say i didn't know my 5-6 rep max as a beginner is incorrect. I tested and tried my max weights. I lifted heavy from the start. it was because i was gaining strength quicker at the beginning not because i was lifting lighter then i was capable.

what is the point of being muscular if you are not strong. You say, we don't have to lift heavy to build muscle. what is the point of building muscle if you are not going to be strong. My goal was to get bigger and be as strong as i can by lifting to my maximum weight.

i was squatting about 90kg and dead lifting about 110kg. I know that's not massive weight but for my legs i was going for more reps, i wanted my legs to be functional not just bulky.

 

I used an example of a rep scheme that builds muscle. I completely agree that there's no point of having muscle but being as a weak as a 12 year old.

Why would more reps = functional. If anything the legs hypertrophy more with higher reps, meaning you'll have big legs but not very strong which goes against what you said above.

 

it doesn't go against what i said because i never agreed with you that lifting lighter weights with higher reps would build more muscle, you said that. I have said all along HEAVY lifting build more muscle. Lighter weight doesn't build muscle mass, it builds good muscle endurance. If your goal is to bulk up then you would have to lift heavy, not light and be weak as **** (but still have big muscle, you said). My goal was to gain endurance strength so lifting medium weight and higher reps will not bulk my legs up too much but will build good endurance strength and what i mean by functional i am still able to run 12km, have agility. How many bodybuilders do you see that can do that, not many because they are lifting Heavy to hypertrophy.

so do you think doing body weight squats to hypertrophy will build you massive leg mass, NO. but you would have real good muscle endurance strength. That is exactly the same as lifting a lighter weight with higher reps, there is no way it will build muscle mass like lifting heavy weights to hypertrophy.

to get big you have to lift heavy, simple as that..lift to hypertrophy, then keep lifting some more.
lifting lighter weight to hypertrophy will build leaner muscle and muscle endurance.
lifting lighter weight for 3x8-12 reps will not build muscle mass. :good

 

Bodybuilders is a poor example, they don't train for agility or endurance but they can and have great results if they train that way.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fsO2P5How0[/ame]

These legs belong to Tom Platz:

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Do you know how he got these legs? "Platz enjoyed squatting with 225 pounds for ten minutes straight. That was his style and the reason he created such massive and striated quads. High volume training was a main stay for Platz. Leg curls and leg extensions were performed at 60 rep increments…yes sets of 60, talk about blood flow."

His usual routine:

Flat footed Olympic style Squats (pyramid sets)

• 6 sets of 15 reps
• 2 sets of 10 reps
• 1 set of 6 reps
• 1 set of 5 reps
• 1 set of 1 rep

Hack Squats

• 4 sets of 20 reps
• Leg Curls
• 4 sets of 60 reps

Seems fairly high volume to me. Seeing as this guy can squat 500lbs for 23 squats, I'd say you don't have to go very heavy to build big, muscluar legs.

Not necessarily.

Wow. You believe that? High weight, low reps = myofibrill hypertrophy. Higher reps i.e 12+ reps = sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. Read up on the two :good It pretty much comes down to the total volume. 30 total reps + will give greater hypertrophy whereas 25 and below will give more strength but less hypertrophy and 15 reps is pure strength with little hypertrophy.

 

yeah thats right he squated with 225 lbs on top of his own body weight. Just squating your own body weight will not build musle mass. There is no proof that guy wasnt on steroids. Poor example.

and when you talk about the 30 or above reps for building muscle thats right. That is why i would train my super sets i explained earlier. I would super set constantly to my max 6-8 rep limit constantly going down in weight per set. it all depend on the weight you use depening on what rep you hypertrophy at. Low weight for 15 reps is not hypertrophy. It is useless training in my opinion.