Why Floyd should beat Pacquiao

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Casa, Nov 20, 2010.


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  1. Casa

    Casa Flomo Pactard Full Member

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    I was watching Boxinginfo on YouTube and he talked about the success Marquez had against Pacquiao. He basically said that Marquez was leading with other punches and ending exchanges with his jab to reset himself.

    If you noticed in Pac's recent fights, they tried establishing a jab, just to find their range and set everything else up. But Pac would adjust and eventually come over the top with his right hook. You can see when he caught guys like Hatton, Cotto and Marg flush, he was basically beating them to the punch and you'd see their right hands, being thrown after a jab, go flailing.

    The question I think is whether or not Pac can throw his hook faster than Floyd uses his right when he leads with it. I know there's that GIF of the Judah knock down but I'm not sure Pac can time it enough to land it before Floyd lands. Not to mention that Floyd has a huge reach advantage over him. I know his hook would be shorter in this case but I think Floyd lands first just because he's initiating and the speed difference is negligible.

    Pac will be in the fight, if he's getting outboxed, because of work-rate, IMO, but I see Mayweather landing the cleaner harder shots, since his lead right is going to be there for him. Pac will land some hard lefts, too, because he's accustomed to that shoulder roll but he's adjusted before. I don't see how Pac adjusts to the lead right.

    People are using the Zab fight as a barometer but is that accurate just because they're both southpaws? And even if that was the case, Floyd was able to land at will as the fight went on. I don't know if that was more Floyd ad******g or Zab fading like he always does, probably both.

    Whatever.
     
    Casa, Nov 20, 2010
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  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Pacquiao could surely time and counter even Mayweather in my view, but that's a small fraction of the real pie. You have Mayweather leading. Not likely - although - it's boxing. Still. A bad place to start.
     
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  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    time to ****ing step up then, i rather see floyd beating pac then him facing mosley
     
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  4. kepyas

    kepyas Member Full Member

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    When will f;oyd find his lost urge and missing balls..:yep
     
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  5. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

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    poor floyd!
     
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  6. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

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    face pacman, 'money'!
     
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  7. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    I say a cease-fire on PacWeather until Mayweather shows signs of getting out of another temp retirement....
     
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  8. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd will beat Pac he is a bigger faster better version of Marquez.
     
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  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Should, maybe...

    WOULD, NO
     
    PH|LLA, Nov 20, 2010
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  10. kepyas

    kepyas Member Full Member

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    sadly..floyd doesnt have the same confident as you do.
     
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  11. rocky538

    rocky538 Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Key to beating Pacquiao is to make him force the exchanges and do not brawl with him at all or pay the price, Cotto, Hatton, Margarito and ODLH did not possess the skills to outbox Pacquiao from the outside, size doesn't make fighters better skill does, Margarito is tall and has a long reach but what good are those qualities if you can only fight inside, Margarito couldn't even outbox the smaller man from the outside.

    Pacquiao couldn't outbox Marquez from the outside and he had to force the exchange and got countered to bits in the process.
     
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  12. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Im a pacquiao fan i don't see Pacquiao winning this.

    :barf
     
    PIPO23, Nov 20, 2010
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  13. kepyas

    kepyas Member Full Member

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    but floyd's action says the opposite.
     
    kepyas, Nov 20, 2010
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  14. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    No it seems that it is your understanding of floyds actions and thoughts that make you think he is not fighting pacman because he is not confident in beating him. And lets face it your understanding may well be as wrong as it is correct.
     
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  15. kepyas

    kepyas Member Full Member

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    i can think of something that is certain,no one will ever know not until floyd decide to step into the ring with the pacman.
     
    kepyas, Nov 20, 2010
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