Suppose for the sake of argument: Pac is taking PEDs

The Nevada urine tests do not detect EPO or HGH, why don't you do some homework about the NSAC urine tests. HGH does not make you grow that's absurd, it's impossible to grow once your growth plates are closed, Pacquiao is a 31 year old man his are closed.


The WADA's olympic style testing detects EPO, it uses a matrix of urine plus blood testing to detect it, you don't have to use EPO to blood dope by the way there's various other ways, many cyclists blood dope without EPO. It's better to detect EPO with the combo of blood and urine case closed. Like I said before HGH has the exact same benefits as taking steroids, you can take HGH the entire training camp under NSAC testing and you can also blood dope. If there's a 7 day window you can take synthetic HGH and blood dope combined with it and it will be out of your system before the post fight blood test. I've said before WADA OSDT blood tests only detect **** within 24-48 hours of the blood drawn, don't you find it curious why they want a 7 day window and earlier they were wanting to know when the blood was going to be drawn hmmmm?

 

Leave floyd alone, you might scared him more

 

There is no direct test for EPO, however, by checking blood plasma levels and the fact EPO is pharmaceutical and nearly identical in make up, it can be checked in the urine against the naturally occuring hormone......in essence, my homework is done, here endeth the lesson ****face.

 

"A baseball player could possibly inject HGH as soon as leaving a ballpark and test negative from a blood sample collected 'post-game' the following day," says Conte, who taught BALCO's customers in Olympic sports how to evade supposedly strict anti-doping programs.

"HGH injections are routinely done at night before bed, so a morning blood sample would be the target," says Conte.


Basically what we have here is that a 7 day window could be used to enhance the performance of an athlete, it has to be random completely up to the fight no questions asked, if there's a cutoff then HGH can be used right before the fight....it's the same thing as taking steroids in fact it's replaced steroids as the go to drug.

 

You know what happens when they detect an abnormality in the blood? THEY TEST THE ****ING URINE.


Guess what? THEY DON'T NEED TO TEST THE BLOOD FIRST.

 

You're the only dip**** asshat talking about Nevada's tests. Pacquiao agreed to RANDOM USADA URINE TESTING WITH NO CUTOFF DATES. Please stop trying to argue this point because you're failing miserably.

 

lol and ur point is what excatly? i see no relevance to the lame points ur trying to get across badly. i aint wastin another second on ur dumbass.

 

thats what i've been saying dogg

if floyd wants to beat the best hes gotta beat pac on the juice, or he's just fighting a midget.

 

You continue to be dead set on EPO, EPO is best detected with a combination of urine and blood testing there's no debate here at all I think the WADA knows more about this than you. You continue to completely ignore HGH and it's obvious benefits in a boxing match or any ****ing sport in general, taking HGH is like taking in injection of roids, it will make you train harder, faster and longer, maintain muscle and low body fat without even trying. Synthetic HGH and HGH in general will give you massive advantages in the ring, how is this fair to allow a 7 day cutoff when both men will be subjected to the testing? How hard is this really, you're spending all this time talking about EPO and NSAC's awful urine testing, yet ignore HGH? Why is there even a need for a 7 day cutoff, and why did team pacquiao want to know when they were going to be tested every time, seriously how hard is it to do a little blood testing up to the fight, denying fans the fight and fighting Shane Mosley because you can't do simple drug testing lol, sounds completely suspicious.

 

**** pacman, everyone knows that floyd has the better skills. let them have a level playing field, no excuses, total transparency in testing and let the best man win. why would u want to fight a man who aint willing to test to the same standards?. in my eyes, both boxers are great in their own right but id hate to find out that my following of a great boxer was tarnished later on in years that he was secretly using some form of athletic enhancement. i agree totally with floyd on this. would cotto have fought mararito if he thought he'd loaded his gloves?.

 

ohhhh try changing ur name to DICK DODGERS?

mind u, by the sounds of u, dodging dick is something ur unlikely to do.

 

Again you bring up the NSAC.

#1 I've never mentioned the NSAC except when I said you're the only idiot mentioning the NSAC

#2 They test for everything WADA does

#3 You are mentally ******ed

#4 See #3

 

I've read and heard so many people ask this same question. One don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this answer out. Unlike other sports, the goal in boxing is to engage in combat on a violent physical level. You either out box your opponent or KO him. To a athlete taking PEDs in other sports like basketball, baseball, tennis etc. There goal is to exceed pass there own expectations, but to succeed does not require them to render there opponents unconscious. Sure they may hit the ball a little harder, but the ball in boxing is not a ball at all, it's a living being who can sustain a great deal of damage, from being hit just a little bit harder. So why put your health or life on the line just because you are confident that your the better man. You may feel that your the better man on a 50/50 scale, but when the scale is no longer even the odds changes. None of us on this planet is super human and we should not have to proof that were super human to please a crowd. Confidence is great while stupidity is dumb.

 

I don't give a **** if you never mentioned NSAC, the fact is NSAC is the main testing in Las Vegas, this is a boxing forum and Floyd vs. Pac would be a boxing match. NSAC testing does not detect HGH this is a fact, Olympic style testing along with NSAC testing detects EPO and HGH, this is a fact. A 7 day window allows HGH use and various methods of blood doping usage, this is a fact. I'm stating facts you're stating lies, NSAC urine tests do not detect everything that Olympic style testing detects you sound absolutely foolish and sound as if you condone cheating. Again you completely ignore HGH as if it does absolutely nothing at all, blood testing is the only way to detect the most useful forms of HGH that give the exact same benefits of an injection of roids.

This fight needs to be random all the way to the fight, why the **** is there a need for a 0 day cutoff you continue to ignore this question.

 

GL: Do you ever see USADA testing becoming the standard in boxing?

KK: "I don't know if there's much of a difference between what the USADA does and what the Nevada Commission or any other Commission does. The labs we use follow the same type of procedures. We all use the WADA list of prohibited substances."



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You seriously want to keep going?