Suppose for the sake of argument: Pac is taking PEDs

I understood your question this is why I posted accordingly. There confident that he will beat Manny , but why take the gamble when you don't have to. If Manny is clean it would be a 50/50 shot that either man can win, if he's not clean then it gives him more of the edge. That's not saying it's a definite win on Manny part, but it's still a gamble Floyd don't have to take. Confidence is great while stupidity is dumb.

 

atsch

How about let's start with the fact that the TS post went right over your head. It plain and simple terms, the Mayweather's aren't acting in a logical fashion. Their words don't match their actions. As conraddobbler posted both of the Mayweather's stated Jr. could beat Pacquiao EASILY, whether he was on PED's or not. They STATED it as fact, the question is why let drug testing get in the way.

In Ebonics light "yo, that's boo****, ya dig???"

What you did was explain away the Mayweather CONTRADICTIONS with your own theory, instead of addressing the fact they aren't acting like men that REALLY believe in their CONVICTIONS... hat

 

Thats the point I am making. *******s dont give a **** either way. As a fan, you would want your guy to be proven clean. Just straight not taking any tests and continue to fight is not proving anything. Just b/c all of the hooplah has blown over dont mean anything. Imagine if Manny himself decides to go the extra mile and be tested like Floyd did. That is a good thing..:rofl That is not a negative. Floyd getting the random stricter tests was a good thing. Dimwits.

 

Shane stop taking his and now look at him.

 

bull****, why should you care if a guy is clean or not?

did you know santa isn't real?

**** happens in sports, peds happen, wipe your vagina elsewhere jewpretty.

 

atsch

WTF, please produce any and all posts where any Pac fans says they don't care if he's on PED's or not... You might find them next to Mayweather's "urge".

 

:rofl Not one ******* has asked for him to take a test.. Not a ****ing one. You take his word for it you ****ing dip****. If they did Pac would have taken the test right now and not fight back to back fights in a state with 0 steroid testing. 0 clown.

 

The drug Mannny is most likely on is EPO. If I was Floyd I would ask for **** tests to be submitted everyday with random blood testing keeping it on file to see his red blood cell levels. I guarantee there will be a huge difference in Pacquiao. I know the fans and the world it seems give Manny all the benefit of the doubt but nobody can sit here without a raised eyebrow on his actions and statements concerning drug testing. This fight could've been made in March. Boxing wouldn't have had to go thru this frustration of getting the best fight made if he just accepted 50/50 with a 14 day cuttoff. He may be well loved over any other boxer but the PPV buys prove otherwise which mean it's more hype than world backing as these Pacquiao fans claim. Otherwise Bob would've released some numbers by now and not be in a lawsuit about the numbers he lies about.

 

Hooray.....at last some sense being talked....pay attention folks coz thats the real deal.

 

because its not pacs job to do that, its the commissions job to find out who's cheating, why should pac or any other fighters PAY usada to do their testing?

 

When arguing the issue, yeah it's easy to get carried away and sensationalize your argument and I believe all people do that to some degree. I respect Pac as a fighter enough to say it would be a challenge, and I would think most people would conceed it being a challenge for either man. I would think that Pac should look to protect himself and his legacy as well, why would he not? I don't see it as some "unreasonable demand", I look at it as two guys risking a helluva alot, and if you are a fan of either or the sport in general, that it would be logical to want to protect yourself or your interests in this kind of situation. Their legacy, their livlihood, their lives are on the line, if you aren't looking to protect those things you are obviously setting yourself up for the worst. If I were Pac I wouldn't automatically assume PBF was clean either, I would want the testing as much as PBF does, which makes me that much more suspcious. You will now have the "internet tough guys" saying "Pac doesn't care", to that I say then Pac is ****ing stupid. He has a wife, children, people on his team who depend on him, the hopes of a country, a loyal fan base etc who depend on him having success. They should matter enough that he wants to go into what would be his greatest challenge to date, knowing that he is on a level playing field. In my opinion it's a common sense, no brainer, issue regardless who suggested it/demanded it.

 

atsch


Thanks, for proving my point, you have nothing. Of course any sensible Pac fan would care if he was proven to be on PED's, his support immediately melt away.

First, the PED accusations were started by the Mayweathers. A dubious, unreliable source at the very least. Please post any Commissions that are suspecting of Pacquiao. You won't find any. Any investigative journalists out there come up with EVIDENCE that Pacquiao is on PED's. It would make somebody's career and probably win them an award. Nothing yet.

Does Pacquiao have any associations with any BALCO type companies? Anybody in Pacquiao's camp guilty of taking or distributing steroids? Nothing yet.

Finally, there's a reason why official commissions should be in charge of ensuring the integrity of the bout. A uniform standard needs to applied to all boxers. The fact that Floyd Jr. can change his mind on the cutoff dates on a whim, proves that illogical and disturbed people shouldn't be in charge of something so important. :deal

 

IF Pac were taking ped and was forced to get off of them, then you would be talking about two entirely deferent fighters. Pac speed and work rate allows him to get away with mistake he may not be able with out the use of peds.
Shane for example : has never been a defensive fighter, his swarming styled coupled with his speed made a hard man to beat. Once off the ped shane started to get hit allot more and punches he was walking though earlier now seemed to effect him..

 

exactly how do you know when mosley was on the peds?

 

how knows when mosley started and stopped was in apparent is the total loss of skills and confidence after being caught..Shane is a totally different fighter today.

This was a man hailed as the third addition of being called Sugar and looked like he might exceed the previous sugars in sheer physical abilities ..