Can Boxing Evolve and Improve Much More Technically Then It Has In The Last 70 Years?

Interesting topic, I personally don't think so. I don't think there has been a huge change in technique since SRR.

To think about this on a basic level, this is a very specialized sport, boxing. There are really only so many ways you can hold your hands, and position your body, and actually be successful in defending yourself and I don't think you can throw a punch that isn't a straight punch, a hook or an uppercut. There just aren't a ton of ways to do things.. I think we've seen every style, and every technique we're ever likely to see. There certainly won't be as big of a change as there was from the 19th century to modern times over the next century. We might see trends in styles and new training methods but technically I don't think we'll see anything new.

 

That Charlie Burley video is ****ing outstanding :yep

That's why i'm so high on andre ward, i know you're a fan too mandanda. But he's the most complete young fighter i've seen come through in a long time. He's mastered about three styles of fighting and there's a reason the kid hasnt lost a fight since he was in nappies. I think we'll be putting his trainer Virgil Hunter on the same pedestal as the great trainers in a few years time, it's clear they've spent a long time mastering the art.

 

That vid of McCallum right there. He's only using techniques Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore were using 60 years ago.

 

Charley Burley should be an inspirational fighter, but I doubt kids today have even heard of him.

Charley Burley is not an athletic marvel, I don't think he's even gifted in that sense though its clear he has excellent reactions. Like Bernard Hopkins, these are not hugely gifted fighters in the physical sense but they are cast iron proof that being a technician of the sport is far greater than being fast or powerful. I think today we look for handspeed, power, chins, things that are immediately apparent and impressive to the eye but we don't look for the subtleties and that almost 'pure' fighting logic Charley Burley displays there.

Why isn't that stance taught very often? Why? I'd love the trainers on here to tell us why, I'd be fascinated.

 

in fairness mike wasn't always like that he like most fighters learnt on the job.off topic mike is now training korobov

 

Today 80% of our fighters stand square on with ear muffs on. So exploitable to feints. How can you protect the entirety of your head and body in that posture when you have to react? And if you don't react and do an Abraham/Kessler its nigh on impossible to throw a counterpunch and not only is your defence exploitable but your offense is cut in half.

It's like we miss the next step in our coaching these days, from teaching a rank novice how to defend himself to a higher stage of thinking and awareness.

I put reflex based and philly shell defences in a different bracket because its so talent dependent. Remember Oscar trying that? Laughable.

The classic posture should be brought back by somebody...Hopkins please become a trainer.

 

Heres an interesting one...who can tell me the last British fighter to demonstrate the Burley/Saddler defence?

 

That Charles Burley video is amazing, thanks

 

The people who say Roy Jones has no technical fundamentals are chatting aload of ****.

Roy Jones could beat all of the british Light Heavyweights out there now, most of the European Light Heavyweights aswell.

Why..?

Because the man is technically gifted and always has been.

Someone like Manny Pac, dose'nt even throw half of his punches with good technique.

When he loses his speed, and agility............he will just be a walking ******.