Rank Vitali, Wlad and Haye competition head to head!

Rank Vitali, Wlad and Haye competition head to head for the last two years which a logical amount of time to determine form etc.

Vitali
- Peter
- Gomez
- Arreola
- Johnson
- Sosnowski
- Briggs

I Wlad:
- Ibragimov
- Thompson
- Rahman
- Chagaev
- Chambers
- Peter

Haye did:
- Barret
- Valuev
- Ruiz
- Harrison


1. R. Chagaev
2. E. Chambers
3. N. Valuev
4. S. Ibragimov
5. S. Peter
6. T. Thomspson
7. J. Ruiz
8. J. C. Gomez
9. C. Arreola
10. K. Johnson
11. S. Briggs
12. H. Rahman
13. 6. M. Barrett
14. A. Sosnowski
15. A. Harrison

 

Vitali > Wlad

 

hmmm ok. ranking off the way they were viewed at the time or the way they are viewed now? i'll go for at the time.

chagaev
valuev
arreola
ibragimov
chambers
ruiz
thompson
peter
johnson
rahman
barret
briggs
harrison
sosnowski
gomez

 

01. Sultan Ibragimov [Clearly]
02. Ruslan Chagaev [Clearly]
03. Eddie Chambers
04. Tony Thompson
05. Nikolai Valuev
06. Sam Peter [Wlad version]
07. Chris Arreola
08. Sam Peter [Vitali version]
09. Juan Carlos Gomez
10. Hasim Rahman
11. Shannon Briggs
12. Kevin Johnson
13. John Ruiz
14. Albert Sosnowski
15. Monte Barrett
16. Audley Harrison [Clearly]

Very quickly drawn up, with not much thought involved. Top 2 and last is easy enough though.

 

You gotta look at the condition of the opposition at the time of the fight. Barrett that Haye fought was shot and had a losing record over the few years coming into the fight. Ruiz was semi-retired without having fought for 2 years. Valuev was struggling with injuries coming off 1 year layoff.

Vitali and Wlad fought much better opposition. Arreola, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Johnson were undefeated coming into the fights. Peter hasn't lost to anyone except to Wlad and Vitali.

 

the ts doesnt ask you to compare resumes. you are supposed to rank opponents.

 

Arreola had commercial backing, he hadnt fought anyone of note though> leading to the fight and has since lost to Adamek.

Johnson hasnt fought one top 20 fighter and still hasnt. In fact bar Peter Vital hasnt taken on anything to the level of Valuev or Ruiz.

 

sultan ibragimov, chagaev, tony thompson, peter from first wlad fight, chris byrd and chambers, are way better then everything vitali beat in his comeback and 1000 times better then everything haye will ever beat... period!
a lot of people are sleeping on ibragimov, byrd and thompson, at the time when wlad beat them there were very good and top 10 opposition in every era!

 

01. Sultan Ibragimov
02. Juan Carlos Gomez (underrrated)
03. Tony Thompson (underrated)
04. Eddie Chambers
05. Nikolai Valuev
06. Chris Arreola
07. Ruslan Chagaev (was already past it vs Wladimir)
08. Sam Peter
09. John Ruiz (he was old)
10. Kevin Johnson
11. Shannon Briggs
12. Monte Barrett
13. Albert Sosnowski
14. Hasim Rahman (what a joke)
15. Audley Harrison (what a joke)

 

1. Ibragimov Undefeated WBO Champion good boxer, complete package.
2. Chageav Former WBA Champion, good boxer, undefeated.
3. Tony Thompson Good boxer, good power, decent wins for contender.
4. Eddie Chambers Good boxer, but lacks power, decent wins for contender.
5. Peter WBC Champion, big puncher, but somewhat limited.
6. Arreola Undefeated contender, big puncher, but inexperienced.
7. Johnson A undefeated contender, good boxer but inexperienced.
8. Valuev WBA champion, given many gift decisions, can be outboxed.
9. Briggs Past prime, dangerous but undeserving of a title shot.
10. Ruiz Past prime, experienced former champion.
11. Barret Inconsistent performances, journeyman
12. Rahman Past Prime, undeserving of another title shot.
13. Sosnowski Euro level
14. Harrison No hoper, euro level at best.

 

Ibragimov and Chagaev are the two biggest *scalps* on any of the three lists, and by quite a margin.

And they are both on Wlad's list.

 

+ Chambers

 

1. SNV
2. Chagaev
3. Peter (Vitali's Peter...Peter of Wlad rematch would be lower)
4. Ibragimov
5. Ruiz
6. Briggs
7. Arreola
8. Thomspson
9. Chambers
10. Barrett
11. Johnson
12. J. C. Gomez
13. Rahman
14. Sosnowski
15. Harrison

 

How was the complacent 250lb version of Peter that Vitali fought better than the more interested, more committed 240lb [in shape] version that Wlad fought the 2nd time? He'd rebuilt himself by then, got back down in shape and actually looked committed.

 

Dude...with what's the infactuatiion with Haye, he will have his ass handed to him...end of story....