The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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Koncz cleared up for the world what "everything" really meant. If Pac agreed to a '0 day' cutoff, has he gotten over his 'superstition', or did he just lie about that, altogether? Remember, he made this big excuse about how the blood testing weakened him for the Morales fight, leading to the loss. He did this during an interview in the Philippines, some years back.

Now, if he was telling a lie...that would be damaging to his career, and it would be an insult to Morales, who for years would've had his victory tarnished by this excuse.

And if he was being honest...and has overcome his 'superstition', was money the cure? Or was it for the fans? Either way, you can't just shed a phobia that easily.

:think

 

I preferred Pacquiao's and Mayweather Jr. words than Roger,Koncz,Arum,Mayweather Sr.,Roach,Ariza.

good article by the way.

 

:good

 

So why did Floyd deny that a second round of negotations ever took place?

You have to ask yourself that question, before even trying to find out what either of the two camps had for their final positions before the negotiations were terminated, which obviously only the inner circles are privy to.

But while one camp was eager to air out the issues, the other was desperately falling over themselves to put a lid on everything. Why? :think

Why did Floyd want to make it appear there were no renewed negotiations at all? He didn't even make any drug-testing press releases. He just said he was on vacation, he didn't have the urge, whatever bull**** he could concoct. :huh:-(

But then when it was time for the media release for Pacquiao-Margarito, he had the energy and urge to rant about racist remarks attacking Pacquiao.

Can you fathom the inevitability of this conclusion?

lol::rofl

 

I made an analogy, and you tried be clever (fail btw) in attempt to point out that he was being singled out. Okay, I'll play ball. Let's take The Margarito fight with Pacquiao as a precedence.

Camp Pacquiao wanted Margarito to be tested before the fight because they had their suspicions. This is not normal and it wasn't required. BUT they had their suspicions. They also wanted to watch his hands wrapped. And you ask yourself. WHY? And the answer is because they were concerned for the safety of Pacquiao. AND they wanted to **** with Tony's mind.

You think they only watched Tony wrap his hands because of his hand wraps scandal? Hell no, but they made a spectacle out of it for psychological advantage. Same trick they tried to play by demanding he be tested just b4 the fight. To **** with his mind in the process. Though they may have been genuinely concerned. I guarantee you they will watch every opponent and probably have been watching every opponent get their hands wrapped regardless of if they've been caught or not.

Now. I agree with any camp wanting to watch the other guy get his hands wrapped, just like i agree with any fighter wanting his opponent testing. Its the same ****!

Sure it may be a little aggravating to those taking the test, but I remind you they are both taking the test! If Pacquiao losing blood bothers him, then he shouldn't be a fighter.

Floyd and his camp have suspicions and rightfully so they aren't taking it lightly. Pacquio hasn't tested positive for anything. But neither have any of the dozen or so people I know that smoke weed and work at drug free environments. Thats like a murderer saying I never been caught before so why am I being arrested?!

I'm not saying he's guilty, I'm just saying why wouldn't he do it? Him saying **** you Floyd I do what I want. would make more sense than "I'm afraid of needles and I'm superstitious". But thats just me.

But like I also said earlier tonite. There's no point in beating a dead horse. Floyd isn't entertaining anything but fully random. If he doesn't agree to fully random testing, this fight will NOT happen. POINT, BLANK, PERIOD.

And since Williams just got his soul knocked out of him, I expect Martinez to take the test and fight Floyd should Pacquiao decline again.

 

ain't trying to be clever about it. just pointed out you are comparing two different things. i went out to your analogy and sucked at it. no point of comparison really. this fight against floyd should be pac's biggest fight. if it were me, i wouldn't be bothered by blood being taken out of me. but i'm not fighting, he is. personally, i would rather that both camps sat down and made the best terms possible that would not take too much out of the other. in leiu of just walking away and taking a vacation. as for the martinez fight. floyd can go ahead and take that fight if he wants to. that's another good one out available

 

It's amazing to me, that Pac would rather go through two training camps and face two bigger fighters in the same year, in lieu of taking a mutually applied random drug test, and fighting in the richest bout in boxing history, against a physically less imposing opponent. I don't know whether to call that heart or just stupidity. Or I guess that's just the power of superstition. :? But, if it's working for him...so be it. :good He's still making his money and building his legacy. He's just doing it the hard way. :huh

 

Whether you want to see Floyd get KO'd or you want the Pacquiao hypetrain to derail, I think the only thing we all have in common is to see them fight. Obviously Floyd isn't budging on the blood test issue. Why don't they get some lil kid with a terminal disease tell Manny he's his favorite fighter and all he wants to see is him fight Floyd before he dies, plant the kid at Pacquiao's next public appearance as a Congressman with a news team nearby.

 

So why would he risk taking epo 5 days before when there's still urine tests in place to act as a deterrent?? I know what yor gonna say, you gonna nitpick this to death and say oh theres fancy designer epo that can only be detected by blood tests....oh really? And lets say hypotheticall he takes epo for those 5 days, how much of a benefit does it give him when in all probability he's not even training for that last week? He sure as hell cant use it the day of the fight and risk getting caught since thats within the 72 hr window? If you're gonna try to reap the benefits of PEDs for training, you sure as hell wouldnt use it on the last week, when you're not even really training anymore. Does this makes too much sense for ya? Use a lil insight man...7 days is highly suspicious?? GTFoutta here......

 

so basicaly you are saying that pac cant win with guys like you. if he agrees, then he is a liar who was just bullshiting about the blood draws to avoid the tests. if he doesnt agree, its because he has something to hide about taking peds. and this is based on no more evidence than a scared crackheads rumour mill.

 

awesome, a "Once and for all" thread started by a random alt, who will just start another "Once and for all" wind-up under a different alt after this one dies

 

This is what you're basically saying, at the risk of getting caught and losing legacy and millions....Pac is willing to take epo 3 days before the fight even with ongoing urine tests still in place to reap its benefits 3 days later during the fight....and he's gonna do this supposedly confident in the knowledge that SOMETIMES urine tests don't detect epo, and that hopefully the drugs effects falls into this imaginary window where it still wont get detected during the postfight blood test.........this is basicslly your whole scenario as to why a 7 day cutoff is suspicious.......holy jeeshus and mary.

 

Nope. I'm saying that what Koncz says clears things up...more than Pac's statement, saying he agreed to "everything". If he has had a serious phobia, for years, he's not likely to shed it that soon (in 6 mths). If it's genuine.

Oh and suspicion requires no evidence...PROSECUTION does.

 

so what, in your opinion, would be the right thing for pac to do?

 

Fixed.