The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    so you think it more probable that floyd would just keep quiet about it (even though it would prove him to be the one in the right) because he is not as predictable as some would like to believe? whereas i believe he would jump at the chance to show manny to be a liar in front of the whole world, because that is consistent with how he is and how everyone i can think of would react. now who would you think is following a more logical developement of events? keep in mind that i am giving you the benefit of assuming you are an intelligent individual, unlike your cartoon sidekick in this thread.
     
  2. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    That article where Pac would be willing to agree to whatever Floyd wants was done after the 1st episode on 24/7....and what's stopping Floyd right now in letting everybody know his demand??? Everybody knows Pac is now willing to agree to just everything (within reason) Floyd wants.

    Pac is itching for a fight with Floyd, does Floyd feel the same?
     
  3. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It depends on how engaged he is in the negotiations. If he is directly involved, he will of course have more to say. If not...maybe not.

    I think people fail to realize that the first one running to the media, to put his spin on things, has been Arum. And Floyd in one way or another has reacted to that. Either by defending his position, as in Jan. or by completely ignoring deadlines, countdown clocks, and so forth, as in July.
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah because in the amateurs they actually give a damn about safety and countries want fair fights not PED enhanced massacres. :deal

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  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    he didnt ignore them, his camp lied about no negotiations taking place. but that is a whole other can of worms.
    what it seems to me, is that you are trying to create room for mayweather so that when negotiations stall and money doesnt come out and say its because of testing, you can still ride that little bit of doubt as long as it will roll. not once have i heard you put floyd in a position where he has be professional about the process or get called out.
    i am not some ******* looking to frame all of pacs moves in the best light possible. i am a boxing fan who is a very good judge of character giving his honest opinion on what is going on right now with floyd.
     
  6. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    since we are at the topic of fair fights, if floyd were such a firm believer of this.. no if's nor buts, how come he chose to come in over against jmm who was already coming up in weight when they fought? not to deviate from the topic, but some serious floyd die-hards seem to look at this only one way, like floyd is faultless.
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nobody said he was. He also paid the fine per the contract and was penalized harshly. FMJ never fights using his weight so it wasn't that big of an issue anyway.
     
  8. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    still doesn't make it right bald slick. also, not in keeping with floyd's strict idea of a fair fight
     
  9. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny's been saying "everything", since the 'talks' ended. Koncz is only one who actually gave specifics...and it was consistent with reports that had already come out, prior to that episode. It is universally understood, at this point, Koncz statements were accurate. You don't hear Arum denying it do you?
     
  10. PaoloMirani

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    Just for shits and giggles, how 'bout this---He got tested for his last fight. There's mandatory drug testing for every fight. He's agreed to even more stringent testing in an attempt to at least compromise. He's gone on record pretty much sayin' "**** it Floyd, I'll take blood testing up intil rd. 6" Pac's pretty much callin' him out, in effect sayin Floyd stop being a lil byatch and sign the contract......*******s got nothin? This aint about *******s, its about boxing fans being hijacked by floyd from the biggest fight in history. You Floydettes are missin' the big picture. I really have no idea why any boxing fan find Floyd's silence defensible. Just for laughs, how 'bout you come up with a viable excuse as to why he hasn't signed the contract.
     
  11. PaoloMirani

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    Breaching a contract is always a big issue...kinda like how credit ratings work, the more you default in your promise to pay, the less credit you get.
     
  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    lol, you really think bhs and good credit exist in the same universe?
     
  13. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    are you suggesting that Koncz knows more about what Manny wants than Manny himself??? :lol:

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  14. punisher

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    You seem to be trying to set a trap or something, with this line of questioning. :lol: I've been entertaining it for awhile, because, you've respectfully been asking your questions. We can open that can of worms about the negotiations allegedly not happening, if you want. But, that might take the rest of the night.

    I don't need to have anything to cling to, or "create room for Mayweather", if the negotations stall over the money or testing, because, I EXPECT THEM TO. Manny is averse to the testing, and Floyd wants more money. Those things are obvious.

    I have not called Mayweather out about being professional. Because, when he was directly involved in the negotiations, in Jan, he was not the one reprimanded by the mediator, for giving false statements to the media. Arum and Co. were. In fact, we didn't hear a peep from Floyd until those negotiations ended. Remember? That IS professional, IMO.

    The second time around, it was Arum's and Greenburg's bright idea to put a gag on things, and not deal directly with Floyd. Yet, how many times did Arum and Co. violate the so-called gag order, leaking details about the 'talks'? Is that what you call professional?

    I don't really see Floyd as the problem here. So, you have not seen Floyd "get called out" by me, on this matter. He asked for a MUTUALLY applied fully randomized drug test. Manny has refused to do so. Hence, we have no fight. This is what most understand to be the sticking point. If the testing is agreed upon, by both parties, and Floyd makes a big deal over the money (assuming the split seems fair), I will call Floyd out.
     
  15. punisher

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    Man...the debate was about what WAS agreed to...not what Manny WOULD agree to, in the future. If he does great. But, that is NOT what has happened UP TO NOW.
     
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