Carlos Monzon .Vs. Marvin Hagler

apart from the bigger bit hagler matches him everywhere

 

BIGGER AND STRONGER, and the hitting power was close, the stamina was close,the heart was close, they both had good chin, i would give the chin to marvin by a bit. i think that carlos would handle hagler pretty well. he did handle very good punchers, briscoe had the size of marvin, he had similar strength and similar hitting power.
tommas hearns had the hitting power and the reach but he had glass chin.

 

:goodhagler was very careful when he beat briscoe.bad bennie wanted to brawl but hagler was cuter and used his feet.

 

Not in ring generalship and smarts.

 

Sorry to hear that mate. Was this when Hagler went through his post Leonard drug haze ? Not that it's an excuse,as there is NO excuse whatsoever for a man laying a hand on a woman.

 

except if its maggie thatcher

 

Yeah. Not sure if she can be categorised as a woman though !

 

or a human

 

I actually think Monzon hit harder and was a better ring general. I became a fan of him last night as I was going through some videos of him. He seemed to always be in control and didn't panic or get frustrated from what I've seen. I have seen Hagler get frustrated in Vito 1 & against Leonard. As of now, I'm a fan of the big 3(Hagler,Monzon,Hopkins) not that I rate them that way though as Hopkins is not top 3 lol. Top 10? I see him being top 5 but definitely not lower than top 10 which is still a huge accomplishment.

 

An amazing fight .. I think the route to beating Hagler was speed and that was not Carlos' game ... a terrific fight that goes the distance ... The very best Marvin wins a decision .. I feel he was too fast, too sharp and would bust Carlos up along the way ... still, very , very close ...

 

? This forum is weird.

Hagler wins a UD at any point in their respective careers.

 

honestly i think that green monzón would beat a green hagler, prime vs prime monzón wins 2/3 fights and past prime monzón would beat past prime hagler.
i think that just the real sugar would beat monzón like middle. and it would be close.

 

The last Valdez fight was in 1977...I don't think Marvin was ready at that time...but in their primes...

 

You think Griffith beats Hearns at welter? :-(

 

Yeah Emile is too cute. Tommy was still a baby, learning his profession, and had not matured totally both physically and mentally.

Granted Pipino may beg to differ, but IMO Tommy did not truly show what the Motor City Cobra was about until he moved up to 154.