Manny Pacquiao: The most overated fighter in the history of boxing??

your too generous for void, maybe top 100 and above, he doesnt fight for legacy ehy, and unless he stop ducking and making lots of excuses like losing urge and on vacation, above 100 for him

 

I have him just inside the top 50,his profile is real shady,he's the only weight jumper i know of that actually hit harder through all his weight jumping, history tells us that doesent happen in boxing,and i suspect roids at the forefront of these results.Until it is clarafied i wont move him any more than just inside the top 50 until it comes to light that he is clean and won those fights fair and square,and even then his record of beating past it fighters,the loses to JMM,the loss to a past it Morales is in question.

 

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"Now some Monday Morning Quarterbacks have agendas, and thus are typically in denial. Others are just plain contrarians, doing so for the sake of being contrarians, whose sole purpose is to attain notoriety by making outlandish remarks and wanting to merely see a reaction from the Pacquiao fan base."

"Prior to Pacquiao-Barrera I, Barrera was the heavy favorite, still ranked among the top pound-for-pound. Result: Pacquiao TKO win. Monday Morning Quarterbacks’ excuse: Barrera was already old, had battled Erik Morales, distractions in camp, had a metal plate in his head (years prior to the fight!), etc."

"Apparently, all those excuses did not prevent people from favoring Pacquiao before the fight. Again, hindsight is 20/20. Barrera evidently was not too old to still remain in the pound-for-pound rankings, evidently still had enough in the gas tank to subsequently win against the likes of Paulie Ayala, Erik Morales (again), Robbie Peden, and Rocky Juarez. But apparently, he was already too old for Pacquiao, a justification after the fact."

"Against Erik Morales, the critics marveled at how Morales “schooled” Pacquiao in their first encounter (though on most scorecards, Morales won by 2 points, but it was apparently a schooling). Hail the Pacquiao conqueror! Yet a mere 10 months later, less than a year, Morales would apparently go from Pacquiao conqueror to Grandma Moses. Results: KO wins for Pacquiao in the rematch and rubber match. Monday Morning Quarterbacks’ excuse: Morales was already old, washed-up, wars with Barrera, loss to Zahir Raheem."

"Against Juan Manuel Marquez, many would say Pacquiao lost those battles. The subjective scoring of judges can be a topic for another day, but the one objective thing that most Pacquiao critics fail to address is the admittedly erroneous scoring of judge Burt Clements in the 1st fight, who said he did not know that a 10-6 score could be awarded to a fighter who scores 3 knockdowns! Had he done so, like the two other judges did, Pacquiao would have won by majority decision. And Marquez should be thankful that the 3-Knockdown Rule was not in effect. Otherwise, the record would have shown a 1st Round TKO, and this discussion about his comeback in the later rounds would be moot.

The Pacquiao-Marquez fights were close fights. Arguments can be made for both sides. The critics and the Monday Morning Quarterbacks will go ahead and treat these fights like it was a Joel Casamayor-Jose Santa Cruz robbery! It was not! They were close fights that could have gone either way. But ultimately, one who gets knocked down 4 times in a closely contested fight should not later complain about losing a close one.

Against Oscar De La Hoya, the critics called it a farce, a circus, a total mismatch! Oscar was favored to win, the size advantage too great. These were their conventional wisdom’s before the fight. Result: Pacquiao TKO win. Monday Morning Quarterbacks’ excuse: Oscar was drained, he’s a shell of his former self, too dehydrated, etc. That apparently wasn’t foreseen before the fight! Once again, it’s after the fact. If Oscar improperly trained himself and overdid it, that’s Oscar’s fault, not Pacquiao’s.

Against Ricky Hatton, many people were saying how Hatton is not weight drained and will be able to use his physical advantages against Pacquiao. We were supposed to get a bona fide rough-houser in Hatton. Result: KO win for Pacquiao. Monday Morning Quarterbacks’ excuse: Hatton was an overrated, glorified club fighter who just walks in face first. Again, many of these Monday Morning Quarterbacks say this after the fact. Prior to the fight, Hatton was considered a top 10 pound-for-pounder, the king and undefeated lineal champ at 140 lbs. Yet overnight, he goes from 140 lb king to overrated club fighter…a club fighter who apparently couldn’t be put away by the likes of boxing veterans Kostya Tszyu, Luis Collazo, Juan Luis Castillo, Juan Lazcano, and Paulie Malignaggi."

And finally, against Miguel Cotto, despite Vegas favoring Pacquiao, many were saying how Pacquiao has never felt the power of a true welterweight, that Pacquiao may have bitten off more than he can chew. Result: Pacquiao TKO win. Monday Morning Quarterbacks’ excuse: Cotto was damaged goods, thanks to Antonio Margarito, cutting down to 145 lbs took its toll (though he has made 146 just fine in previous fights), and the one that is an obvious stab in the dark: Pacquiao must be on steroids!"

 

Goblin 2 is probably one of the more ignorant and bias posters on here. He obviously is very butt hurt about Pacs success and feels insecure about his own man crushes current standing ... Do you really expect anyone to take your views seriously ? Over guys like Gallo ? Or ex fighters like Marvin Hagler, foreman, RJJ? No, you're a nobody on a forum doing nothing important. I doubt there is even any posts you make not hating on Pacquiao .

**** off *****, go whack off to some photos of Floyd and Ellerbe

 

Goblin 2 is Floyd Mayweather!

 

Why should there be in the first place when the Commission which sanctions the fight does not require it? Just because the crackheads of family want it? You *****s are irrational.

 

The fake threads here are like poison oak.

 

Your suspicion is just suspicion. You should know that Pac is specially gifted person, physically and spiritually. His prayers before and after boxing evoke smiles of approval from above. :good

 

Well Pac is talented, but do you notice why Bob Arum/Roach/Pac picked those opponents? ask Roach he knows the answers.


Marg "I seen your last two fights"

Cotto "Needs "time" to recover from his Margarito defeat", "Damaged Goods"
“It doesn’t matter if Margarito did it in that fight or not, a fighter is still not the same following a knockout like that.”

Hatton "I also don’t think he’s the same fighter he was before he lost to Mayweather. I think the Mayweather fight took something out of him and that he looked pretty shaky in the Lazcano fight", “If Hatton goes toe-to-toe with Manny he’ll get knocked out!”

De La Hoya "I don't think Oscar is going to have any answers for Manny," he doesn't possess the quickness to use the jab or his vaunted left hook effectively against the younger, quicker Pacquiao" "Oscar hasn't fought four times in four years. This is Manny's third fight this year. I really don't think it'll be close"

 

Come on man. If you applied that logic, even greats like Sugar Ray Robinson would have at least half of his wins invalid.

 

shut the hell up

 

TS is on something. Overrated is a harsh word, but, there is some truth to it. Pac gets beat by Guzman at 130 and Floyd at 147. There is no more truth than that.

 

Hell Leonard would have zero credible wins