Ring Ratings Update: Martinez rises to No. 3 in pound-for-pound rankings

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  1. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    RING RATINGS UPDATE

    CRUISERWEIGHTS

    Zolt Erdei (No. 5 last week) departs because he has returned to the light heavyweight division, which bumps up everybody rated below him last week up one spot each. Guillermo Jones is back at the No. 10 spot.

    “Erdei’s long layoff and his prosaic eight-round decision over club fighter Samson Onyango was not sufficient to earn him a spot in the 175-pound class, especially as he hasn’t fought as light heavyweight since January 2009,” said Nigel Collins, Editor-in-Chief of THE RING magazine. “If, however, he continues to campaign successfully as a light heavyweight, Erdei will most likely return to the ranking in the near future.”

    MIDDLEWEIGHTS

    Williams falls from No. 2 to No. 4 following his devastating K loss to Martinez, the world champion. This allows Kelly Pavlik, who went the distance losing the title to Martinez, to advance from No. 3 to No. 2. Sebastian Sylvester (No. 4 last week) is now No. 3.

    JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHTS

    Now that Martinez (No. 1 last week) has settled in at 160 pounds, he is removed from the junior middleweight ratings. All those rated No. 2 and below last week climb one rung each. Filling the void at No. 10 is Saul Alvarez.

    POUND-FOR-POUND

    Martinez’ KO of Williams elevated him above Juan Manuel Marquez and into the No. 3 slot, while Marquez is now No. 4. Williams (No. 5 last week) exits. The shakeup moves Nonito Donaire from No. 4 to No. 5, Pongsaklek Wonjongkam from No. 7 to No. 6, Fernando Montiel from No. 8 to No. 7, Wladimir Klitschko from No. 9 to 8, and Tim Bradley from No. 10 to No. 9. Entering the pound-for-pound list for the first time, at No. 10, is Juan Manuel Lopez.

    thoughts i haven't seen enough of slyvester to know if he is number 3 at mw
     
    nip102, Nov 23, 2010
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  2. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    I would say Jean Pascal has a better case of entering the top 10 than Lopez. He even has a better case being there than Bradley IMO.
     
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  3. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Agree with the Martinez move. I would however put in Pascal or Ward over Lopez.
     
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  4. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Pascal and Ward on the the number 9 and 10 spots instead of Bradley and Lopez sounds about right. :good
     
    Zopilote, Nov 23, 2010
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  5. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lopez top 10 p4p?

    what a load of shite!
     
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  6. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    I'd also re-arrange the order for #5-8, switching Wlad and Donaire's places, and likewise for Pong and Montiel's places. Order will become Wlad, Montiel, Pong, Donaire.
     
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  7. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Thinking about it, my list would look something like this:

    Pacquiao
    Mayweather
    Martinez
    Marquez
    Klitschko
    Montiel
    Wonjongkam
    Pascal
    Ward
    Donaire
     
    Zopilote, Nov 23, 2010
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  8. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    solid list :good
     
    igotJUIC3, Nov 23, 2010
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  9. kingalex

    kingalex Guest

    Totally agree.

    +1
     
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  10. Brownies

    Brownies Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, some people would also be angry if Pascal was there instead but he's a ring champion at least. I'm surprised to see Lopez there instead of him, but he's probably a safer bet to stay on the list for a longer time.
     
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  11. kingalex

    kingalex Guest

    I don't think so.
     
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  12. horst

    horst Guest

    I agree that Martinez should now be number 3. His longevity can't match Wlad's, but his comp has been so much stronger recently.

    If you consider that Martinez has (in my opinion) won each of his last 4 fights, against Kermit Cintron, Kelly Pavlik, and Paul Williams twice, then he is light years ahead of Wlad in terms of comp, and that should be the most important factor in p4p rankings.

    Wlad scores highly on longevity and consistency, but when you're beating the likes of Peter and Chambers, and your next fight is Chisora, you can't even compete with the recent ledger of Martinez, never mind hope to be ranked above him.

    Thus, my top 10 is as follows:

    1.Manny Pacquiao
    2.Floyd Mayweather Jr
    3.Sergio Martinez
    4.Wladimir Klitschko
    5.Juan Manuel Marquez
    6.Andre Ward
    7.Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
    8.Fernando Montiel
    9.Juan Manuel Lopez
    10.Nonito Donaire

    Sorry, but for me Timothy Bradley is not even close yet. I don't understand why people think his resume or achievements merit a p4p placing.

    I wouldn't rank Jean Pascal yet either, because Froch beat him fair and square, and I'd bet serious money on Dawson schooling him in a rematch.
     
    horst, Nov 23, 2010
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  13. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i don't see how donaire can be on the list
     
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  14. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    #1-6 is similar to my list. the ony thing I don't agree with is having Pong that low as his only notable win is over Koki Kameda, who is not ranked P4P. I'd be more comfortable having him at number 10.
     
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  15. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal This^^^^

    Especially Bradley. He has yet to beat a p4p fighter. He's only beaten contenders in his division, none of whom were elite contenders. Now his resume is still better than anyone else at 140, but it's not better than Pascal's or Ward's.
     
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