Pac-Margo did 1.15 million buys

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  1. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    P4P means nothing when someone is clearly the bigger money maker, like fred said 250k sales is something like 13 mill.

    Floyd has amassed more in a shorter number of fights so that clearly isnt hard to work out wy he should be getting more.
     
  2. Norbix

    Norbix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is exactly what's wrong with this forum.

    Why does Floyd fan have to automatically = Pac hater?
     
  3. vonBanditos

    vonBanditos Mσderator Full Member

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    This is stupid. How many other one million PPV draw fighters are out there? Oscar? They agree to 50/50 because, combined, there is no bigger PPV fight out there and they probably won't come to a deal any other way. If neither of them can agree to that deal then I hope you're happy with them fighting guys that they are expected to beat.
     
  4. TommyV

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    You're comparing different fights though. Who's to say who's the bigger money maker when 2 non-American's fight and do 1.15m, and two big American stars, including the fact that Mosley beat Margarito, fight and do 1.4m.

    I mean look at Pacquiao vs Cotto, 1.25m buys again not involving an American. Floyd's fight against Shane may have done 150,000 more sales, but their was huge promotion to it on his side, he was everywhere selling it, Pacquiao-Cotto wasn't force as much on a promotional side and still did very close to the numbers.

    50/50 is more than fair. I wouldn't argue that either is proveable as being the bigger draw. And yes, P4P does matter for me. When a guy works his way into a position where he's one of the 2 biggest draws in boxing over in the US, despite being an Asian fighter, and the P4P #1, he shouldn't have to take a minority cut in any fight.
     
  5. vonBanditos

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    It should also be pointed out that the Pac fight was $55 and the Mayweather fight was $50. That introduces a whole new set of variables when determining draw.
     
  6. tarugojones

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    1.15m buys not bad for two cheats.:D
     
  7. tolindoy

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    that road is under construction right now...:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  8. TheBling

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    Again, get your head out of his ass. How far is it up there to think that 30% of people that bought this fight did it because of Floyd's name lololol:happy

    Make a poll and ask "Why did you buy the Pac/Margarito fight" and leave the options as...

    A) Because I'm a Pac fan and wanted to watch him fight
    B) Because Pac is Floyd's rival

    See if you even get CLOSE to 5%. Goon.
     
  9. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Yeah i think pacman asking for 50/50 then declining when having the chance to take up the offer stupid aswel.

    There arent any other 1 million + ppv sellers out there apart from De la Hoya who will return again imo.

    But fact of the matter is numbers do not lie, mayweather has outsold him with several less ppv fights how can you (mayweather) not expect more from thise results.

    They need each other, and dont be so stupid why am i happy for them to face other fighters.
     
  10. nip102

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    Pacquiao’s pair of 2010 fights sold 92,728 tickets, an extraordinary number for boxing.
    that is great news
     
  11. vonBanditos

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    You (Mayweather) expect not to make more because it will take 50/50 for the fight to be made. If he doesn't then he can beat on inferior competition. You (Spud1) appear to back that line of thought - over 50 or bust - so I can only assume that you would be happy for him to turn his back on the fight if he didn't get more than 50%.

    And, as TommyV pointed out, the numbers do, in fact, lie because they aren't common opponents or even common price points.
     
  12. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    That excuse for the first paragraph is no longer viable, pacman is not new to american fans, he has been fighting in the usa for 7 years and more and has a big following from filipinos, Margarito has big following from mexican americans.

    Floyds did more than cotto pacman abit more than what you accept anyway. It may have been promoted more but that is arum fault he didnt promote enough, you cant blame floyd for their lower turnout numbers.

    P4P is arguablke it dont mean **** when discussing the business side of boxing sadly.

    At this stage all that matters is PPV just how Oscar told mayweather how much he could have.
     
  13. Leon

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    This. Did Floyd or emmanuel get 50% when they fought Oscar due to their P4P status? No, **** no.
     
  14. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Well numbers dont lie it is printed in black and white what else can you say.

    You assume and you dont get the real truth im saying it how it is mate, im not really bothered but it is what it is.

    And to correct you common opponents Floyd outsold him by a million i think.

    Oscar and hatton if that helps.
     
  15. vonBanditos

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    Obviously I was only talking about their most recent opponents which is what is important right now. At this moment, Pacquiao and Mayweather are roughly equal in terms of PPV draw. Actually, to be honest, I'm not entirely convinced a fight between the two would net superhuge numbers because a part of me thinks that both sets of fans already buy both of their PPVs. I don't really know how much more things can grow.

    Pacquiao, as the draw, sold 1.15 mil at $55/ppv. Mayweather, as the draw, drew 1.4 mil at $50/ppv. Since the price point is different and there is really nobody else out there that can even sell even close to this they are roughly equivalent to me. I don't see how either would agree to less than 50%. That Mayweather might technically draw more fans is just immaterial.