This is why uk is in love with haye!

Heres another one, this nugget reckons haye is gonna get "in and out" and "unleash bombs", doesnt say HOW he is gonna do that exactly, just that he reckons that is what will happen :nut

Obviously he fails to mention that haye doesnt have the style to do that against either klit and also fails to mention that all evidence suggests that Haye as of yet doesnt want the fight.

Also tips Haye to KO Vitali. atsch

Stop making us look like biased chunts please :good

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Depending on whether US TV want it live, it could start at the same time as the Mayweather/Hatton fight. I see your point but I don't know if it really changes the amount of buys a PPV gets. For everyone who is interested but can't stay up late, the PPV has reruns throughout the next day, so there are things like that to be considered.

That's a fair point. I think throughout boxing, the heavyweight division is more glamorous. However, I think the Mayweather/Hatton fight captured peoples imaginations. Mayweather is brash, cocky and people wanted to see him lose. Klitschko is just another heavyweight with a foreign name and there isn't much of a selling point there. Promotion is essential in capturing the mainstreams attention and I don't see what Wlad or Vitali can add there, honestly.

I think it was the same. I can't remember a British PPV going over the usual price. I know Pacquiao/Hatton was £15, anyway.

If you understand the British boxing scene, it's fans, the British mainstream media and the promotion for Haye/Valuev, then you'll understand that a Klitschko fight will not be much bigger business.

 

You could be right there Jack. I am not British nor do I live there. Although I do believe a Klitschko match would bring in higher ppv numbers around the world then Haye/Valuev, meaning more money for both fighters, that has been my point all along. You and Haye have been stuck on British ppv numbers. Look at a world picture and it easily out does your above example. That fight would even be a ppv in North America.

You and I may disagree, but, I think if Haye wants the fight he has to quite the bickering and step up, sign, & FIGHT! Overall, when all is counted from WORLDWIDE revenue this fight will easily be Haye's biggest payday. I understand your point all along Jack, I just don't agree with you.

I think you and Haye and the British defending Haye's stance are not seeing the big picture, your to busy thinking only of British ppv and trying to come up with ways that Haye deserves more. Haye does not deserve more in any kind of twisted logic. Ps- you don't think the promotion for Haye/Klitschko to really fight in the ring would not be huge? If that is the case you do this fight a great disjustice.

If we disagree. We disagree.

Peace

 

Hang on a minute Bazza, who is generalising here? I am told by Jack, who is British, that the average person who buys Haye's ppvs does not know or care who Klitschko is. He is making that generalisation, not me.

I actually think that is bull****, if you have even a casual interest in Haye then you will know who the Klitschkos are. Haye made sure everyone knows who they are, all the hype that surrounds him is all down to him calling them out at every opportunity. So there is no justification for Haye to keep all of the ppv revenue based off the idea that the Klitschkos are nameless Eastern Europeans who the British public have never heard of.

 

Actually it's the extra belts that would generate the extra sales, not the Klitschko name. Most casual fans in the UK have no idea who the Klitschkos are....they may remember that Lewis beat one of them but that's about it. Klitschko doesn't generate the extra PPV buys, the belts that he holds does.

I'm tired of this **** anyway to be honest, I'm sure the fights will be made this year and we'll get a satisfactory conclusion one way or another.

 

Im United Kingdomish and i admit Haye is a complete ***** who far from being the saviour of boxing represents much of whats wrong with modern day boxing. I hope Vitali decapitates him

 

Won't happen. Haye likes to punch back occasionally. This always confuses the **** out of VITLAY, and he WILL quit.

 

We must have been watching different Vitalis. I dont watch a lot of the guys boring dominating clubbing exhibitions, but i wont forget the Hail Mayys Lennox hit him with all night and he kept on coming back for more. Lennox hits many times harder than David. David has ZERO chance against Vitali and he knows it

 

honestly there is little honesty from most people on here,tbh!.

yes klitschkos will contribute less than haye brings to ppv revenue sales.

why?,klitsckos dont have ppv ,they dont have it (ppv) in germany!,lol.so that wasnt a very smart question was it?.

Haye does have ppv in uk,he earns more than the klitschko do from thier tv deals.

klitschkos wont be contributing to ppv in america as they cant even get on american ppv live tv, like hbo ,not without Haye!.

thats why greedy k bros want a slice of hayes ppv money,becuse they cant get a ppv deal in germany,and cant get as much as haye gets for his own ppv,thats why the wont sign and fight,becuase they see that haye earns himself more becuase he sells fights and has ppv contracts,they think they can rob someone elses tv money.

no one in the uk really knows them much,ide bet they would dislike them as much as they do fraudley if they saw one of thier fights in full.

y'all mad that Haye isnt letitng himself be taken for a ride.

why should anyone give away thier own tv money in return for less money from the others tv money?.

i respect that Haye isnt letting them carry on thier greed,but ide rather he would let them have thier steal of his tv money so he could KO them both and expose how poor they are agaisnt real tests.

i say that they both agree- haye wins,haye keeps all his tv ppv money.

if klitschkos win,they can have half of hayes tv money.

sorry if i make so much sense you cant properly argue the points and just talk silly ole b.s.

 

OK so you brought up fat, overweight Lewis who refused to lie back and be hit by VITLAY....how about the only other opponent that was defiant? Chris Byrd was his name, and what happened there? Byrd was stalking VITLAY in the latter rounds of that fight, and VITLAY didn't like it too much so he quit like a woman. The Haye fight will pan out exactly the same, VITLAY might get a few rounds in the bag with his pitter-patter style but eventually the Hayemaker will get to him, and he'll quit, or get the doctor to quit for him. No heart you see...

 

I feel sorry for the Brits who arent on the Haye hype train.They get put into the same pile as morons like Jack and Relentless.

Damn it must really suck to be a Haye fan.

 

You misunderstood, either that or you knew you would have to admit that you are wrong so you chose to ignore my question and answer another question I didn't even ask. Will a Haye-Klitschko fight sell more ppvs than any other opponent Haye could fight right now? The answer is YES of course it will. So, Klitschko will contribute to the ppv sales. Do you get that or do I have to draw you a diagram?


This is an interesting point. If Haye is so confident of a win, why won't he take a fight which will net him more than he has ever earned?

Why is he not willing to give up a share of the ppv money when in return he will get a 50% share of all the other revenue that Klitschko generates which is a lot more than his ppv deal? You are all acting as if the tv money is the only revenue generated by this fight.

I don't know why I'm even bothering to reply to you, it's clear that you are not willing to accept facts. You keep going off on a tangent so you don't have to answer a simple question put to you.

 

Well, you kind of did when you said the average British boxing fan is a dumbass? Or maybe I just dont know what generalisation is because I myself am a British boxing fan and thus too dumb to know what it means...

As far as the Klitschko's are concerned, if they were on PPV, would people here buy it? I dont think so. Unless a Brit is involved, I dont think they are a big sell here.

The average person on the street wouldnt have a clue, and a lot of fans for various reasons know them but just find them boring to watch. I for one remember staying up for Wlad-Ibragimov, which for some reason was on Skysports, and it put me off watching him again to be honest.

My view would be that, yes, the average person who buys a Haye ppv knows of the Klitschko's, but do they add value personally to the fight's ppv sales? Not particularly. Haye fought Audley friggin Harrison and the general public got hooked in, the same happened with Valuev. When it comes to HW their imagination is easy to catch. The only thing the Klitschkos have that adds weight to the PPV is their titles and the fact they could be sold as "the best in the world".

 

I cant for the life of me understand why the american public like these brothers, they are the most boring fighters out there, diabolical to watch. At least Haye is exciting to watch, those 2 are like watching paint dry:bart

 

It is - part of a 9 hour live boxing show. 8 fights from the Frank Warren Gre8t Britains show, plus Del Boy and then all the Khan v Maidana fest - all for £15.00.

The Klits also have to realise that the biggest TV market will not touch them with a bargepole right now - but if they fight Haye, then they will get back on TVs in the US.