machida was robed

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  1. good

    good 'bad' Full Member

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    i think rampage thought machida won.
     
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    EL BULLY Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i can see a case for either guy winning and even a draw. but the term 'robbery' should be saved for when a guy is declared the winner after being at the wrong end of a lop sided fight. Otherwise these words lose their meaning, what is it about message boards that makes hyperbole the default setting for most posters?

    TBH one of the good things about MMA is that robbery seems less common place than in boxing. Probably because a loss does not signal the end of a fighters credibility in MMA like it does in boxing.
     
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    Really what seperates this from a match like Shogun/Machida is I'd say that 1 round was clearly judged wrongly rather than 3 rounds.

    Personally I think MMA judging is far far worse than boxing right now, excuses can be made for the results but really only because the judging criteria are so ill defined. That ill defined judging and the limated number of rounds means that any mistake/bias can be far more costly.

    I know I come away thinking "the better guy lost" far more often in MMA than I do boxing. The difference is that MMA fans seem to have a very short memory, bar Shogun/Machida 95% of these results are forgotten about within a few weeks and there happy to buy the promoter line that the best guy won.
     
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    EL BULLY Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Another reason that perhaps the 'bad' decisions are forgotten quicker is that the fighters work for a particular promotion (like the UFC) and don't want to get cut so very rarely ***** about it.
     
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    moreorless Active Member Full Member

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    In this case the fighter was told to shut up when the claimed he should have lost. :D

    Can you imagine if a decision like Forrest/Rampage had happened in boxing match? Rampage and his camp would have been questioning it for months, large parts of the media would have agreed with him and a rematch would almost certainly have happened.

    We question fighters self interest in boxing but it does IMHO lead to a more honiest sport, results are looked at more realistically and rematchs happen when they need to more often. In MMA a result like this will not only often be largely ignored but the losing fighter will also clearly suffer from it in terms of his future opportunities.
     
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    It was so close,even judges agree,I thought Machida won,but I am fine with the split decision,now machida needs to work on his hands specially his right hand,Rampage was waiting all night to conter that left,he needs to bring more to the table and not be so predictable.
     
  7. EL BULLY

    EL BULLY Well-Known Member Full Member

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    MMA guys, especially the ones that come from true martial art backgrounds are so respectful and philisophical they wouldn't ***** and moan anyway, machida is one of those proper martial arts guys, bowing and all that **** like GSP is as well.

    The jock wrestlers are different and would probably ***** and moan but like I say: a boxer and his promotor (an agent by any other name) are free to negotiate their business with whoever they choose whereas MMA guys are on an organisations payroll and get paid what they get paid, not like boxers taking slices of PPV revenue and all that stuff.

    I think the mindset of an MMA guy is the same as a boxers was, business-wise, in the 1930's. Just happy to get in there and compete and get paid what they get paid and if the judges go against them so be it.