The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you can tell like some of you who have never been in the ring or near a boxing gym at the statement you make ,stop doing easy **** and prove me wrong.:-:)-(
     
  2. JUSTAFIGHTFAN

    JUSTAFIGHTFAN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This coming from my solid source, you're wrong
     
  3. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Im not saying that he is on drugs, myself i am not to sure but for someone to say they are not suspicious then they are an idiot especially with all the trips to hospitals and signs of ped usage such as ulcers swollen joints etc, also his head has grown and become more manly in a space of two years. very iffy to me. pac should be ashamed of himself staining his country in tht manner
     
  4. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    I been saying the same thing for years. Pac is a cheating ******, No more, no less
     
  5. KikoMatsing

    KikoMatsing Galit Kami Sa Baboy Full Member

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    :patsch very solid source indeed!
     
  6. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ,I know people who have high scores and are the dumbest when coming to common sense and my pockets are larger.
     
  7. shaunster101

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    What different does the length of the fight make? You fight at a weight which is close to your natural body weight. At age 16 BOTH weighed around 106lbs. You telling me Mayweather was cutting 15-20lbs because he was fighting amateur fights. WHat was your point?

    What this shows is that at that age their bodies were a similar size and weight. This is indisputable. It shows that their bodies have developed at a similar rate throughout their careers. At age 16 both weighed a similar amount. At age 31 Mayweather weighs a bit more.

    The only real difference between the two is where Mayweather steadily progressed through the weights and didn't drain himself to fight at a certain weight, Pacquiao was weighing in at 130-135 and then rehydrating back to 145-147.

    So why does this make you think that one man is on drugs but not the other? Both have made the same progression through the weights in the same time span. Please explain.

    Really? Can you show me Floyd looking fat? Go on, show me just ONE piece of evidence.

    Here is Floyd weighing in at 147 because he could not make the agreed 145 catchweight. Doesn't seem to be carrying any fat whatsoever to me. He looks ripped to shreds. Kind of flies in the face of what you're saying.

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    So here you have a man whose weight at age 16 was around 106lbs, yet can no longer make 145lbs. But it is the guy who started of at 106 and now weighs 144 that you're accusing of taking PEDs. Why is that? Please explain your logic

    This is why you are a ****ing moron. No evidence at all, just absolute bull****. Can you show any evidence whatsoever that Filipino's 'don't grow'. I mean legitimate scientific evidence, not something that mong Karceno has written in **** on a toilet wall. Actual evidence to support your ridiculous claim.

    I won't hold my breath waiting for a sensible response from you. I'm sure you'll duck out of adressing the points I've raised.

    Anyone else is welcome to join in
     
  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    you have no idea who i am so you just talk out your ass with what you think sounds cool as a comeback.
    i think you are an idiot and said so because there is over 1300 posts as evidence that you are in the bottom 10% of the population in terms of intelligence. you usually dont drop that far below average unless both parents are contributing inferior genetics.
    in other words, your moms and pops must be real dummies to put out such an inferior product. i bet you are too dumb to even suspect that youre not that smart.
     
  9. LONGROB

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    We have white ghettos in the States too. They're called trailer parks.:D
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Great post.

    Now watch him act like this post isnt here.
     
  11. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    :lol::rofl

    You never cease to amaze me, you guys consistently kiss ass to have back ups to argue your points for each other.

    Have you no shame?:think
     
  12. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    :deal
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    so **** it, if no one wants to pat you on the ass, youll do it yourself, lol.
     
  14. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :rofl

    I didn't ask for anyone to back that up. It speaks for itself.

    If you disagree why don't you address some of points I raise? Or would you rather just make stuff up and avoid the facts? e.g being able to spot a specific type of fat that is developed ONLY on people that took steroids and then stopped. :lol:
     
  15. Outboxer

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    I really hope Pac isn't on anything, just to see the faces/reactions of everyone if it was ever revealed. If he really is some sort of athletic freak (and he certainly looked it back at the lower weights, way before he even put on this weight) then it's incredibly flattering if people all think he's cheating. He could just be THAT good. Joe Goossen seems to think that Pac isn't taking anything at all, and that he's just a 'bad dude'. I can't imagine Roach encouraging him to use drugs, either.

    We'll see, I guess. I'm hoping that he's clean, just to shut the stupid mouths of Roger and Sr. Floyd Sr in particular comes across as incredibly bitter, as he only started the steroid rumour AFTER his fighter was brutally KO'd. It's as if he couldn't face the idea that he utterly failed against a small guy moving up in weight, so he had to find any excuse he could.

    I personally think a lot of Pac's success has been a combination of a few things.

    He fought better fighters at the lower weights. Barrera, Morales and Marquez are a DEADLY string of fighters. Their names will be remembered in history. Pac was outboxed in a close fight with Morales, then knocked him out. (Morales was known for having an iron chin, and had never been even genuinely put down before, let alone KO'd.) He utterly crushed Barrera, and he had controversial wars with Marquez. Someone could make a case that he had the edge over all of these legends. Just from those fights, you can tell he's a special fighter. Now, after Pac moves up, who does he face? Diaz, a faded, weight-drained Hoya, the awful Hatton, Cotto, Joshua 'I throw no punches' Clottey and the crude Margarito. Most of these guys aren't even comparable to the lower weight fighters that Pac had wars with, so is it really surprising how he dominates them, especially considering his speed advantage?

    Also keep in mind that Pac has been improving as a fighter with almost every fight. Back when he first exploded on the scene he only really had his big left hand. Everything else was just a distraction. Now he's got a lovely right-hook, especially for countering, he's worked on his foot movement, his guard, his timing, etc. The longer Roach has to work with a fighter, the better it is, really -- he only trained a past prime Hoya for one fight, and they were still able to be competitive with Floyd.
     
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