Trevor Berbick vs Ron Lyle

That's true. But power is the last thing to go. He should've been able to stop Ledoux if he was such a good puncher. Espescially since the whole fight was fought in a pocket.

 

ron lyle did his pro debut in his 30s, and still his %ko is good.43(31ko) lyle faced foreman,shavers,ali, quarry,bonavena,peralta,bugner,jimmy ellis,buster mathis.. tyson would have worse %ko in the era of lyle.

lyle was stronger than tyson,taller, with longer reach, he could take a great shot and he had more heart. tyson was not MUCH harder puncher

 

Ellis, Mathis, and Bonavena were likely past their best. And he didn't even stop them.
Lyle never really KO'd anyone durable. Tyson stopped Thomas, Berbick, Holmes, and Rudduck. All durable, tough guys.

Tyson would still be able to stop a lot of the guys from the 70s. Not that KO % really matters. The point is that Tyson hits harder. Lyle would NOT KO Berbick in the same fashion that Tyson did.

I still question is Lyle was stronger, I mean they were pretty much the same weight, except Lyle was taller.
Tyson could take a good shot too and had plenty of heart. If he didn't have heart he wouldn't have took that beatdown from Lewis or Douglas.

 

Also Tyson showed heart in the first fight with Holyfield, he was exhausted after a sloppy attempt to finish Holy in round 5, & rose from a brutal uppercut to the solar plexus in the 6th.
During rounds 6 through to 11 he was merely a gassed Heavybag, taking a battering.

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If he had no heart... he would have stayed down and just took the count

 

lyle himself was not in his prime, because he was inhis 30s. and the faced better rivals than tyson did, end of the history. ron lyle would ko more guys in the era of tyson.larry holmes was a shot when he faced tyson. tommas and ruddock were stoped by tommy morrison, they did not have iron chin. that point is you said tyson did hit MUCH harder than lyle ,and he did not, he was just harder puncher, and lyle was stronger in my opinion.

 

ron lyle had much more heart than tyson and it is not even debatable

 

Yeah he wasn't in his prime. But he still didn't stop these guys, if he hit hard then he would at least have a stoppage over Bugner, who basically sat in his shell and let Lyle tee off.
He did face better fighters then Tyson. I agree with you. the 70s had a very deep heavyweight division.
I was listing those fighters because they were known to be durable guys. I do think that Rudduck and especially Thomas were shot against Morrison, and Rudduck still put up a hell of a fight.
I think he did. He looks more powerful on film, faster, and had much better punching technique. A lot of the time Lyle just arm punches. Lyle, in my opinion was more of a accumulative puncher. Tyson was a KO artist

 

and??????? so you think that more weight is = stronger....:nut
foreman weighed 217-232 pounds
and prime tyson 215-220 and foreman was taller, the foreman who weighed 217 was stronger than the tyson who weighed 220... simple.... foreman had a bigger bones structure, he had more strength. tyson was mass simply,ron lyle was stronger than tyson

 

That's not what I said.

I do think that Foreman was stronger then Tyson.
But Lyle was not Foreman. I don't think the strength between them was substantial, not that it would matter in this fight, because Lyle is not stopping berbick the same way that tyson did

 

bugner was in his prime when he faced lyle, and bugner did not have exactly glass chin..... ruddock was 32 years old against morrison, a shot?¿ noway!!!

tyson never was a single shot ko artist , tyson got combinations

 

ron lyle was not foreman but he was not much weaker... my point is that lyle would ko berbick, i do not know if he would do like tyson

 

That's true. it was a good win for Lyle nevertheless. If he can't stop Bugner i don't think he's stopping Berbick though either.

Well, Rudduck had been through wars with Tyson, got stopped by Lewis, and had quite a few fights before then. The point is he was definitely past it. Prime Rudduck would have stopped Morrison.

Well, Tyson still had quite a few one punch KOs, he definitely had more then Lyle thats for sure

 

not, i do not think that berbick was more durable than bugner, no way. even joe frazier could not ko bugner.
i think that morrison would beat any version of ruddock. tons of rivals of tyson were in his 30s like berbick for example,ruddock was very good still when he faced morrison. and like i said.. my prediction is lyle by brutal ko .