Freddie Roach on RJJ-Steve Collins

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  1. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    -2005


    Thoughts?
     
  2. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    It would have been great to watch jones against any of our top boys at his best
     
  3. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Come off it, Freddie. Jones would've had his way with Stevie Collins. Common opponents are never the best gauge, like statistics they can be used to prove anything. Roy Jones was a couple of levels above the likes of Collins and the rest of our best guys, apart from Joe C, we all know that. In fact i seem to remember Steve admitting it himself.
     
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    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i agree with you on the first part


    the second bit in bold, a prime 168 roy jones against calzaghe? thats hilarious
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Collins wasn't particularly good. Jones wouldve dismantled him. Johnson was not a 'southpaw Jones' either, Roys reflexes were on another level.

    Prime for prime, Roy Jones would wipe Calzaghe out inside a few rounds. The levels are so different it hurts.
     
  6. GazOC

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    Gave up after Johnson being a southpaw Roy Jones.....;O)
     
  7. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    its favourite pastime of the biased Brits on here to underestimate abilities and victories that Collins enjoyed.

    I dont see Collins beating RJJ but I see him giving him a hell of a fight - and yes RJJ ducked Collins.
     
  8. GazOC

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    You think Reggie Johnson was a southpaw Roy Jones Slap? That dodgy connection seems to be the meat in Roaches prediction.
     
  9. sportofkings

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    I agree Collins is underestimated even to this day
     
  10. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    the Johnson comparsion is a stretch. RJJ was so much quicker and elusive.
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I agree that Collins does get sold short at times, especially when it comes to the two wins over Chris Eubank.

    Even Collins himself would probably concede that Benn was done when they fought.... but the job still had to be done.
     
  12. atberry

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ngNIvi3Rc[/ame]
    watch from 8:00 on




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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2r5m6uYxI[/ame]
    watch from 7:45 on for lovely countering by Collins
     
  13. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Calzaghe vs. Jones would always be very competitive and closest of those match-ups IMO. Not saying Joe would win. There's a difference.
     
  14. TFFP

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    Roy would have embarrassed him - and everybody else we have to offer.

    The idea Collins would even have been competetive is silly.
     
  15. Scotty321

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    "Reggie Johnson was a southpaw Roy Jones in that time":shock: