Juan Manuel Marquez: Fighter of the Decade

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  1. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Why do you keep saying "enough said" when it clearly isn't? Where the hell did you learn to debate?:lol: That's some really warped logic that you use.

    So, now you are saying that fighting Castillo gives Floyd a stronger resume than JMM currently too? This is just pure comedy. So now.... according to you we have...
    Floyd -- Castillo twice
    JMM -- Mayweather - Pac (twice) - Barrera - Casamayor - Diaz -Juarez - Katsidis -John, ect...

    And you are saying that Floyd's resume before he even reached 140 is stronger than JMM's currently... "enough said". This is comedic gold.:rofl

    Also.... Do you consider Pac to be the exact same level that Marquez is on? If you consider Pac to be a better fighter, than it isn't null and void. Pac would be better on someone's resume than JMM would, if you think Pac is the greater fighter. And no... you still haven't proven your point. Naming Morales and Barrera sure as hell didn't prove that Pac's resume was better before he reached 140 than JMM's is currently. Clearly... you don't even believe it anymore and you are making yourself look silly.
     
  2. Kush

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  3. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calm your vagina. Wait for 2019. Boxer of the decade was already given to Pacquiao.
     
  4. AP3RE2

    AP3RE2 El Ausente Full Member

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    I'm guessing you have not seen the fight.
     
  5. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    look you stated as a fact that both floyd and pac's resume below 140 pale in comparison with marquez, i proved other wise using ONLY TWO FIGHTERS NAME. AGIAN LET ME ASK YOU HOW MANY HOF/ATG FIGHTERS IN JMM's RESUME. :good
     
  6. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shall we credit Marquez's recent win RETROACTIVELY to the decade past.
    The current decade ends 2019.
    FAIL!
     
  7. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Uh...you do realize that you are counting 2 fighters as 5 for Pac, right?:rofl How on earth do you expect to get a reasonable debate... when you want to pretend like JMM didn't fight Pac twice... then you want to count Morales and Barrera as 5 ATG fighters, just because he fought them multiple times.

    I would say that JMM has clearly fought at least 3 ATG fighters. Mayweather, Pac, and Barrera.

    So far you have named 2 ATG fighters for Pac. Morales and Barrera, in your book.

    Now... beyond JMM having more ATG's than Pac on his resume to that point.... Marquez absolutely smokes him with the rest of the high level competition that he faced to go along with those 3 ATG fighters.

    Get it? Besides the fact that Mayweather, Pac and Barrera is more impressive than just Morales, and Barrera as ATG's. I am sure that current ATG lists would have Pac, Mayweather and Barrera much higher on the ATG lists than just Morales and Barrera. We won't even bother mentioning where the said fighters were in their careers when Pac/JMM fought them either.;) (Like I said, 2 of them for JMM are currently #1 and #2 pd 4 pd) In your famous words.... "enough said"

    So... JMM has more ATG's ... higher ranked ATG's.... and he is miles ahead with the other Champions that he fought compared to Pac (and definitely to Floyd) at that point.

    Once again. You lose. Try again.

    (Keep avoiding Floyd's resume too. I would)
     
  8. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well you are one blind man if you cant see the fact in front of you.

    should i bring in the THREE LINEAR TITLE in this discussion?

    also how can you disregard the fact that pac fights them ATG/HOF after ATG/HOF except for some tuneup.
     
  9. MAIN

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    what ever u say douche.....but u left out BIGGEST **** DRINKER as well....mayb u should join your fighter of the decade to a nice warm cup of **** f'in moron....."blatant ped abuser" (SPECULATIONS BY CRACKHEADS)....."drinks his own urine" (caught on camera).....lick a dick douche
     
  10. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Ok, I'm done. Clearly you are one of those people who ignore the truth if it gets in the way of their bias opinion.

    BTW... I'm a big Pac fan. I would never argue in a million years that JMM is greater than Pac all time.... and this is coming from someone who believes that JMM beat Pac BOTH times that they fought. The difference for me is that Pac rose above everything and what he has currently done is nothing short of amazing. He deserves all of the credit and praise that he gets. I order every PPV that he fights on and I cheer for him every time.

    As far as Floyd. I was a fan of Floyd before he reached 140. Jr. Welter and after... he has been a huge disappointment in and out of the ring. Consistently not giving the fans fights they want to see. Fighting everyone at the worst times, and not fighting his biggest challenges.

    BTW, I never said that JMM should get fighter of the decade either. That's silly as well.
     
  11. twofear

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    i never discount any of jmm's achievement to tell you the truth he is a HOF and ATG fighter as far as i'm concerned. anyway it was great talking to you. :good
     
  12. EJDiaZ

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    6 fighter of the decade
     
  13. Farmboxer

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    Great fighter as long as he does not go above 135!
     
  14. JM22

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    Did Pacquiao knocked out average Larios,Clottey and Margo?
     
  15. PIPO23

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    YES, he is juan knocked down again Marquez! atg for sure.