The ATG middleweights

You seem to have a lot of the right names up there, Bodhi. It's tough to rank the middleweights for sure. If you're talking who beats who then it's one list. I prefer to measure accomplishments. For instance, I could make a great argument for putting Teddy Yarosz on your list ahead of Joey Giardello. To my way of thinking it can be argued that Mike Gibbons outstrips several guys you have up there. I could even argue that Jeff Smith beat a better bunch of fighters than Bernard Hopkins and Tony Zale beat. Does BHop have a single win that even comes close to Charley Burley's win over Archie Moore or his wins over Holman Williams? Look at Frank Klaus's record: beat Jack Dillon, Georges Carpentier, Billy Papke, Eddie McGoorty, Leo Houck, etc. Would Hopkins have had so many title defenses if he'd had to rule a division with that kind of depth?

I'm not making any big proclamations here. Just throwing out things to think about :smoke

 

and obviously theres no bias.

 

its better than what basilio did at middle.

 

Yes its better than what Mickey Walker did at the weight, hypocrite much?

 

Seriously though what did Walker actually do at the weight, theres Tiger Flowers but that was very much disputed decision, aside from that his best wins at the weight are Malone, Milligan and Hudson. The latter both WWs moving up, while Malone not really being the best at that time. Maybe Mctigue should be classed as a MW win though

Walker was a great weight jumper but in terms of being dominant at a weight and cleaning out a division it never happened. And his wins above MW overshadow what he did at the 160lb class

Jermaine Taylor has a better MW resume than Walker if we're using your 'only performances at the weight' criteria

 

Well if you saw Walker-Flowers/Hudkins and thought Flowers and Hudkins won your..... I just read your last sentence but those fights were equally controversal from what can be gathered.

I certainly thought Taylor deserved at least 1 of the BHOP 'fights' but its been so long and I don't plan on watching either again. I thought Spinks beat Taylor

I don't really rate Taylor high, but he's an example of how resume in itself doesn't give the full picture. Walkers MW resume is comparitively weak to others

 

Ok
But, i wanna know from a old school guy like you......What´s your opinion on Kid McCoy ?

P. S : Excuse me for my english

 

how is roy jones not even on the borderline list do u forget he beat hopkins and toney in their primes?