Boxing Trainer says "Mundine needs a HEART TRANSPLANT"

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  1. Rodin

    Rodin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'll prolly have to give myself an upper cut for trying to point out the obvious here, but here goes.
    Of the 4 previous fights to Choc that Green had, were at LH (Beyer return was the exception) He went back down in weight to fight Choc at Sup. Mid. & that was his last fight at that weight.

    Isn't there the tiniest of hints there that he wasn't comfortable at that weight.

    And since you've got such a low opinion of him, who has Choc fought since, that would trouble Green?
     
  2. Bobby Sinn

    Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant Full Member

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  3. IrnBruMan

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    You don't get it.

    Mundine also played for Saint George after he played for Brisbane, so when he retired from the NRL to take up boxing, he was at or around 86kgs.

    He never struggled to keep that weight on - where do you get this stuff? Yes, he would have been doing weight training to increase his size and maintain it, but he also would have been eating a lot more back then compared to now.

    You reckon Green was more than 7kgs heavier than Mundine when they fought? :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Have you actually seen the fight?
     
  4. TCboxa

    TCboxa Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I will list them for you old man lol must be the age getting to you :lol:

    Daniel Geal
    Nader Hamdan
    Sam Soliman
    Shannon Taylor

    Taylor only just makes it on the list but i rekon the other three would give Green problems for sure and Mundine has defeated each one of them.
     
  5. Rodin

    Rodin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah right.
    Thanks for that.
     
  6. TCboxa

    TCboxa Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Daniel Geale would defeat Green easy imo mate.
    Nader Hamdan would give him troubles as would Sam Soliman, you did ask the question who would give him troubles. I think Geale, Hamdan and Soliman are classes above BJ Flores and BJ gave Green troubles.

    Lets scratch Taylor off the list, that should make you happy
     
  7. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here's those 'sources' my foot-in-mouth, Mundine nuthugger friend:


    The Experts Say Green will knock out Mundine


    from Ray Wheatley's 'World of Boxing' - March 2010 edition - Pages 6 & 7

    1/ Lovemore N'dou (world welterweight champ) - Green KO.
    2/ Sam Soliman (world super middleweight challenger) - Green KO.
    3/ Paul Toweel (world class junior middleweight) - Green KO5.
    4/ Charkey Ramon (Commonwealth junior middleweight champ) - Green TKO10.
    5/ David Grainger (Amateur champ & leading official) - Green TKO5.
    6/ Brett McCormack (President Aust National Boxing HOF) - Green TKO9.
    7/ Mel Crook (Historian & World of Boxing writer) - Green TKO10.
    8/ Tom Domican (Trainer of World kickbox champ Alex Tui) - Green TKO9.
    9/ Garry Todd (Boxing Writer) - Green TKO5.
    10/ Stan Beard (Major Boxing Sponsor) - Green TKO7.
    11/ Howard Leigh (World of Boxing writer & ring announcer) - Green PTS
    12/ Tony Nobbs (Writer & trainer) - Mundine PTS.
    13/ Billy Dibb (world featherweight challenger) - Mundine close PTS.
    14/ Graham Shaw (leading trainer) - Mundine PTS.
    15/ Jeff Malcolm (Commonwealth junior welterweight champ) - Mundine easily.
    16/ Andy Timms (boxing historian) - Mundine PTS.


    Totals:


    Green by KO = 10
    Green on points = 1
    Total for Green = 11

    Mundine by KO = 0
    Mundine on PTS = 5
    Total for Mundine = 5

    So 10 out of 16 predict Green would win a rematch by KO over Mundine.

    (and the funny thing is one of the very few votes for Mundine was from 'Flash' - LOL)
     
  8. biajoli

    biajoli Prestige... Worldwide Full Member

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    Cheers for the source

    must say im glad that the 5 i respected the oppinion of the most got ir right imo,., mundine easy:good
     
  9. Kegsy

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    I wouldnt value Jeff Malcolm's opinion too highly.
    Same can be said for some who tipped Green.
     
  10. teke

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    pwnage.

    by or buy?
     
  11. oztriker

    oztriker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you want me to start listing no hopers that gave Mundine probs?:lol::lol::lol:


    Hamdan wouldn't have beaten my Grandmother (unless she was going through a bad period)

    Soliman and Geale aren't likely to be stepping up to Green's weight.... :patschand Green would destroy both as he would know that they were incapable of hurting him.:deal
     
  12. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A slightly more informed boxing panel than you'd find at 'New Idea', the magazine you seem to mention so often.

    Then again, having 'Flash' on this particular panel was like asking Janette Howard who she'd vote for when 'Little' Johnny was running for re-election.


    In summary:

    1/ Flash Malcolm DID say there were NO rematch clauses in Choc's fight contracts, and therefore none applying to Soliman III. On that basis Soliman III was a waste of time, just as you stated earlier.

    2/ Mundine DIDN'T play anywhere near as low as 73kg at the business end of his NRL career - prior to his boxing career. This is indesputable, other than from nil credability sources like Wikopedia of course.

    3/ The panel of boxing 'experts' in a national boxing magazine DID in fact predict Green by a landslide in a Mundine rematch, and predominantly by KO. And yes, the 'source' HAS now been provided as you requested.

    Adios until next time my friend Biajoli.
     
  13. Rodin

    Rodin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not quite mate. That's what the smiley was for. (Intentional :lol:)
     
  14. Rodin

    Rodin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Then there's 3 blokes on that list who have tipped Mundine to win, who would tip him to beat the Klitchko Brothers. Both on the same night. :lol::lol::lol:
     
  15. pecks

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    The thing is though, many were predicting the same before their first fight.

    I doubt there will ever be a rematch. Firstly because Mundine has declined considerably, while Green has found his zone again.

    Secondly, a rematch would probably be at light heavy. Considering Green has pissed and moaned about how he nearly killed himself by dropping a weight division to fight him last time, whats to say he wouldnt come out with those same excuses again?

    A lose/lose scenario.