The Fighters Roy Jones Supposedly "Ducked"

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  1. Commando

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    STEVE COLLINS - I Don't really know the details on this one. I know Collins was calling out Jones. I also know they finally agreed on a fight in 1998 but Collins collapsed in training before the Calzaghe fight, before they ever got to fight. I'm still not too sure about all this. If someone can give me more details about this fight it would be appreciated.


    JAMES TONEY II - In '95 Toney moved up to Light Heavyweight and was leter fighting at Cruiserweight full time in 1997. Whereas Jones didn't move up to Light Heavyweight until 1996. By that time anyways Toney lost twice to Montell Griffin and hadn't beat a notable fighter since Charles Williams. What the hell was the point of making this fight, when Jones ****en schooled him the first time around.


    NIGEL BENN - In 1993 Jones was offered to fight Nigel Benn for his Super Middleweight title. Jones was too inexperienced at the time with only wins over Jorge Castro and Jorge Vaca on his resume at Middleweight. Instead of fighting Benn, Jones chose to fight Bernard Hopkins for the vacant IBF Middleweight title. In 1995 Jones was calling out Nigel Benn and Don King in a video which I can't seem to find anymore, sorry. I don't know why this fight didn't happen around '95 but it should have. Out of all these fights this is the one taht should have happened the most along with Michalczewski. I'm sure both Jones and Nigel wanted the fight. Personally I think Don King screwed up the negotiating of this fight. Maybe the fight could have been made in 1996 if he could have beaten Thulani Malinga but obviously he lost and lost two more fights after that to Steve Collins, major drawbacks.


    VASILIY JIROV - I don't even know why this guys name even gets brought up. Jones didn't even fight at Cruiserweight...I guess it was because Jirov was a big puncher so Roy Jones "ducked" him when they weren't even fighting in the same division.


    CHRIS EUBANK - Roy Jones used to call Eubank up eariler in his career asking Chris to give him a shot at the title. Eubank always said no if I fight Jones, people would be like who is this guy he's fighting. Eubank stated Jones was a nobody at the time. (Not sure what year this was). Chris also said he would ONLY fight Jones if he was a mandatory for his belt. Then in '96 Eubank called out Jones saying he wants to fight him...This is just after Eubank lost twice to Collins. All Eubank wanted was one last big money fight, Jones said there was no point of making the fight now.


    LENNOX LEWIS - Yes he probably ducked Lewis but can you blame him? A ****en 6'5" 250 pound Heavyweight? Jones would have gotten KTFO and he knew that.


    BERNARD HOPKINS II - Jones offered Hopkins a 60/40 split in 2002, which was more than fair. Hopkins didn't take it, instead he wanted a 50/50 split. Why the hell would Hopkins deserve a 50/50 split, when Roy already beat him once in 1993 and was already a champion at Middleweight, Super Middlweight and Light Heavyweight? Not to mention by 2002 Roy Jones had Hopkins, Hill, Woods, Malinga, R. Johnson, Vaca, Tate, Castro, Griffin, Gonzalez, Toney, Sosa, McCallum, Pazienza, Thornton and Harding compared to only Aquino, Trinidad, G. Johnson, Jackson, Brown, Holmes and Vanderpool...


    MICHAEL NUNN - The fight was offered to Michael Nunn, but Michael said Roy was getting too much of the purse in which I agree with him. This was in 1998 when Nunn was faded to **** and hadn't beaten anyone since 1993 Merqui Sosa. The timing was never right for this fight to get made.


    JULIAN JACKSON - Didn't he get destroyed by Gerald McClellan twice? Once in '93 and another time in '94. Oh yeah, let's just add Jackson to Roy's ducked list because he was a big puncher and would have shattered Roy's glass jaw mandible.


    GERALD MCCLELLAN - This superfight would have happened in '95/'96 if Gerald beat Benn but he suffered life threatening injuries in the bout. I mean they were both American fighters they couldn't hide or duck each other, the fight would have surely been made but it couldn't for obvious reasons.


    DARIUSZ MICHALCZEWSKI - You know the story, both fighters didn't want to leave their home countries. Personally I think Dariusz should have came to America, who in the **** was Dariusz at the time? Nobody knew who the **** he was. In the 90's if you wanted to get recognition you needed to go to north America to make a name for yourself and Michalczewski didn't.


    GRACIANO ROCCHIGIANI - I know they had that thing with the WBC Light Heavyweight belt but who the hell was Rocchigiani in 1998/1999? He was a washed up bum that's what he was, no point of making this fight.


    FRANKIE LILES - I read that Jones and HBO offered Liles a 7 figure contract to fight at Super Middleweight in 95/96. Frankie turned it down. I don't know how accurate this is but it did come from Jones own mouth.




    Random Quotes -


    Roy Jones reportedly had an agent at the Benn - Malinga bout to
    offer Nigel a unification bout. Of course, this was out
    of the question following the Judges' decision - and if Benn
    fails on July 6 this match, which he wants so badly, will be out
    of the question for good.


    Q: "Do you think Nigel Benn would come out of retirement to fight you?"

    Jones: "Benn's coming out of retirement to fight Stevie Collins, who he lost to in his last fight. I don't think he'll beat Collins, but I will be fighting, hopefully, Stevie Collins next year too."

    Q: "Did you have plans to fight McClellan before he got hurt?"

    Jones: "Yeah, in fact, I was gonna fight the winner of that fi ght. But when Benn won, Don didn't want to do that because Don doesn't totally have Benn. Him and Frankie Warren had Benn together, so Don King didn't want to make that fight.

    DI: "What about Nigel Benn?"

    Jones: "If he beats Collins, sure."
     
  2. Commando

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    **** i meant to post in the General
     
  3. Boxed Ears

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    Allan Green is a warrior! RJJ ain't goin' nowhere near that beast!
     
  4. Commando

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    yeah man Allan Green is top 5 all time. Even greater than SNV but not as great as SRP.
     
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    ...Now, hold on, now...I say-I say-I say hold on, now.
     
  6. Commando

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    ok ok ok, but you have to surely agree that SRP is better than SNV right?
     
  7. Boxed Ears

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    If you mean Sugar Ron Paul, I didn't even know he boxed. Can he do the crunkercut? The SNV Double Punch?...
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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  9. Commando

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    :rofl

    lol no i'm talking about the one and only Sugar Ross Puritty, but nice guess. Man there's a lot of Sugar's out there.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It's still second fiddle to Suggestions & Requests.
     
  11. bodhi

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    That´s were it belongs, to the rest of the fanboy bull****.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Prime for prime Jones beats Collins emphatically ,Collins was clearly beat by McCallum.

    Benn would be stopped ,too much speed for the one dimensinonal banger.

    Eubanks would not go near him.
    A Toney, who was not weight drained from pigging out ,would be a close fight .
     
  13. Boxed Ears

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    Oh, Sugar Ross, who took out Voidamir? Well, he's good, but there's really only one real Sugar man...He can do things SRP, SRL, SRR, guys like that just can't do. Some religious figures can turneth water into wine. Sugar can turneth some stuff into...wait, I have a GIF you need to see to comprehend...This really happened. It's scripture. GIFiffied scripture.

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  14. Stevie G

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    Never mind about the above. Good post as it is,but Jones' biggest opponent appears to be retirement ! I wish that he would call it a day,immediately. He and Evander Holyfield are two accidents waiting to happen.
     
  15. Senya13

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    As far as I recall, he wasn't offered per se, rather Benn pointed out in one of his interviews something like Jones could have chosen to try to make a fight with me, instead of going after the vacant IBF middleweight title. There was no point for him to move to 168 lbs yet. In 1995 it was a conflict of HBO vs Showtime that prevented Jones from facing the winner of McCellan-Benn fight.

    It was Lewis who didn't want to negotiate further (about the division of the purse), not vice versa.