Why did USADA stop blood testing Floyd & Shane 18 days prior to their fight?

You never won a debate against me. I shoot you down several time already? Remember the "Mayweather can make 140 easily"? Idiot.

Back to serious topic, how's your dad?

You are still idiot, though!

BTW, just because it is an analogy that it is always accurate. That is simply a ****ingly hilarious and dumbest analogy I ever read.

 

I don't want to put it on either man entirely. I think Mayweather might be more to blame. You criticize Pac's team for lying but at the same time Floyd said he just wanted to go on vacation and his team denied negotiations took place. However, people forget first time go around Pac probably refused to budge more and might have been more responsible for the fight not going through. I say this because he didn't say "**** Floyd, I'm not taking your stupid tests." He negotiated it down and ended up thinking 14 days was still not enough time. Seemed fair as hell to me at the time, and especially now. He looked embarrassingly in the dark in that Clottey interview. He still does.

As for now, I think 7 days is reasonable. I mean, what's Pac going to do start juicing up for 7 days and NOT get caught in the post-fight blood-test? I don't think so. It seems far too risky, and where's the benefit. You can't really cycle on such a short time. Mayweather SHOULD agree to this. If Mayweather wants to fight, eventually, I don't see how this can't appease him. It doesn't look like Floyd wants to fight now. It's a shame because I feel there's more of a chance this fight could happen this go around or next go around in Nov if Floyd really wanted to. But he's not demanding it, and people are sick of it since things keep falling out. Arum can cash in again with Mosley, and the next chance for this to be possible appears to be late 2011. If Pac doesn't retire by then.

If I were Mayweather I would push for the fight to happen. Even if I didn't want it (Which he may not) because he's losing the PR battle hugely. But if Arum makes Mosley over Mayweather the act gets a little clearer, and soon people might be looking the other way.

Thanks man. I have no allegiance to any fighter. I'm a fan of many fighters but I'm not a hired member of their team. I have no obligation to defend them... at least not all the time. If Cotto were to fight Bradley, Marquez to fight JML I would criticize them too.

And If Pac fights Mosley, it further reiterates how easy he just likes going along with Arum's plan to cash in. He either doesn't know any better, or doesn't care to know. Doesn't look good either way. Arum has him on a leach, which makes it impossible to completely blame Floyd because Arum has huge ulterior motives. The agenda is clear as day... even the HBO team were talking about it (You got to be a top-rank fighter). Will the guy up next is the promotional free-agent since Manny's beaten every legitimate top-rank fighter around the weight!

 

Floyd wanted an OSDT up until the fight. Pac said 24days. Floyd sais 14 days. pac said no. then more nego. after a week or so, pac agreed to 14 days. I think that was the right order.

 

Ah, so the 2nd negotiations around.

This fights had so many failed negotiations/non-negotiations that I'm actually getting confused with the dates and time table.

 

Wrong analogy. Okay,after the surprise quiz were given. Is the professor going to find out who cheated or he's going to find out who's not prepared for the quiz?. Because it's random,that does not mean they(cheaters) will stop from cheating.
Test them anytime but they can still cheat and they can get busted too.
What if Shane or Floyd played with fire .How the USDA going to find out since they stopped testing 18 days before the fight? Tour the France does random testing but Floyd Landis was not deterred from taking steroids.

 

I agree. Both had been inconsistent with their stories and the only real victims with this whole fiasco are the fans of the sport because at the very end of it all, the fight is losing it's luster because of all the bull**** coming from both camps. It's really hard to consistently argue whether who to blame or not because both camps are at fault.

 

There's a 2nd negotioation, I dont care if it failed or 'no negotiations' as what floyd's bf said.

 

**** it. I'm going to the lounge and look at some boobs.

 

Tignan mo na lang sarili mo sa mirror.

 

Now, I'm not getting what you are disagreeing with.

Also, you aren't suggesting that we should just test the athletes 1 week before the fight and that's it (I'm assuming you're meaning just blood-testing)?

You know, I'm having difficulty finding the point of your unnecessary ramble (With terms I'm sure you just learned about in school). I believe Bald Head Slick covered the risks of testing everyday because of hematomas.

Besides, I don't think the fighter's would like that. Being tested so frequently can become such an inconvenience. You think Manny would go for that? I also think that in a mega fight random testing is fine. We're dealing with 2 athletes, not every Olympic athlete. Who would risk taking with the known risk of a future possible test? Obviously your proposition is idealistic. Not that Pac would go with it. It also has risks that were covered. Not sure why you're arguing against random.

 

lol bakit? wala naman akong man boobs.

 

There was meditation which had some compromise. The mediator proposed 18 days and neither said agreed. Floyd proposal was a 14 day cutoff the 1st time around. Pac never accepted that deal.

 

Pic or stfu

 

Think you're taking what Bigreg said too literally. Besides, is it actually proven Landis cheated? He claimed he went within the confines of the rules. I don't know the details but saw the Bigger, Faster, Stronger documentary. What was founded in him? He said he was just living in his altitude chamber.

Well said man. That should end the thread but it won't.