Max Schmeling vs Jerry Quarry

Please reference Quarry's fights with Foster and Shavers to get an idea of how Quarry handled right hands. If Foster couldn't hurt Jerry with all those flush right hands(especially the one in the 6th right before the KO) neither could Schmeling.

 

I wonder which durable hw contender Foster hurt. :think

 

Well, Spencer certainly qualifies as a mildly durable contender and Foster vaporized him.

 

That´s it? Foster probably is the harder puncher p4p but at hw he is not. Schmeling can and will hurt Quarry.

 

Obviously nobody at the top tier. I'll take a stab at spinning this to the limited extent I can in Foster's favor.

Scrutinizing Mac's record, his eighth round knockout of Giuseppe Ros in Switzerland immediately preceding Ali in Tokyo seems to stand out a bit. In 60 fights, nobody else ever stopped Bepi, including Bugner, Urtain and huge, powerful five time domestic rival Dante Cane. On paper, Ros would appear to be his most impressive scalp, and it came after the Quarry loss, in the latest round Foster had stopped anybody in up to that time.

Although Zora Folley was aging, he had actually done all right for himself after a peak Ali knocked him out, extending Bonavena to a majority decision at Luna Park, and wasn't stopped again until Mac dropped him five times, then for the count in a single round. He also starched a post Jerry Quarry Thad Spencer in a way that Leotis Martin and Ron Stander did not. Mac also crushed O'Halloran in one immediately after Foreman needed five rounds to do it. Mac Foster is the only one to stop Folley, Spencer and O'Halloran in a single round.

He also halted 6'5" Sam McGill (a former Ali and Liston sparring partner) in nine, duplicating what Conteh had just done. (John's successes against heavyweight competition have been overlooked somewhat.) After taking five years off, McGill would post a 5-3 record in a respectable comeback, and become the first opponent to take an up and coming Gerry Cooney the eight round limit, then go to Italy dominate Righetti on ABC's Wide World of Sports over ten, only to lose the decision in Alfio's hometown. (Jones and Rappaport should have immediately arranged ten round rematches for Cooney with both McGill and Eddie Lopez, to possibly extend Gerry in a lower risk situation.)

Mac and Sonny Liston are the only two men to stop Cleveland Williams twice. Big Cat was still a competent heavyweight when Foster stopped him in back to back bouts during late 1969. Cleveland would rebound by stopping talented stylist Leroy Caldwell in ten, outpointing promising Ted Gullick over the same distance behind a final round knockdown, hanging tough over the distance with the much younger Chuvalo in George's final major win, then close out his career by going 3-0 in 1972, starting it off with a 12 round win over Terry Daniels (fresh off his challenge of Frazier) for the Texas State HW Title (dropping Terry in the process). Despite the fact Williams had been shot and seriously wounded by a police officer in late 1964, he remained a credible competitor even when pushing 40, so Mac's back to back stoppages of him are a reasonably commendable achievement.

 

This fight feels like a chess match between two high level counter punchers, and I feel that perhaps Schmeling has the mind to win in that sort of fight. Another advantage I would have to give to Schmeling is that he has skill in shooting a counter right out against left handed punchers, and one of Quarry's primary weapons was the left hook. Schmeling's peculiar style may also work to his advantage against the more orthodox Quarry.

With those things in mind I would say that Schmeling picks up a decision win or late stoppage after a lengthy accumulation of hard right hands.

 

Yep..that's a point...Jerry had a beard, that's for sure..and that Chuvalo ko loss was a fluke, IMO.

 

Meanwhile, the high opinion and touting of Max Schmeling in this thread makes Max Baer's slaughter of Schmeling that much more impressive.

 

It was perhaps Max Baer's greatest performance, but has also been described as one of Schmeling's weakest showings on film. A rematch for Baer's title in late 1934 or early 1935 would have been no sure thing for the Larruper, as this is when the German knocked out Neusel and Hamas.

 

Baer was at his very best in that fight, focussed and very motivated. Schmeling on the other hand wasn´t. And it was still a pretty even fight after before Baer got him out of there.

 

Although the better fighter, I don't think that Schmeling winning this is by any means, a forgone conclusion. Sure you have to favor the man who bested a young Joe Louis, but Quarry could pose stylistic problems for him.

 

I wonder why Schmeling wasn't motivated? Baer was a formidable contender..Schmeling, you'd think, would have been motivated to say the least.