How does Pac have a huge advantage in the chin department when he's been stunned, Knockdown and KOed in fights and Berto has never lost let alone been KOed, damn we get it he had a hard fight with Collazo when he was still learning on the job, but Pac has been KOed by lesser fighters, people say stupid **** at times.
he hasn't been seriously hurt since he moved to 126. you wanna compare chins from a 1000 years ago? you're f'n nuts. And Berto fought 1 tough guy in Collazo. He's been totally sitting on his ass with that zero.
Probably because he's taken some good shots from Cotto and Margarito and took them well, he hasn't been hurt in a long time. Berto was getting hurt all over the place by Collazo(not a big puncher), got KD'd by Cosme Rivera, and arguably got KD'd by Carlos Quintana(not a big puncher). His chin certainly has some questions at this point, I would say.
It's all in the past thats my point, now Berto has been hit cleanly by some good shots but i've never seen him seriously hurt and before you bring up round one of the Collazo fight rewatch and in slow-mo and look at their feet, Berto trip over Collazo's foot and Berto also looked back to catch his balance, if you really hurt you don't have the awareness to look back. That fight was also like 3 years ago and Berto hasn't been shook since, so how can you be so sure Pac has the better chin, he barely gets hit lately.
I'd say there's more question's to Pac's chin, he's been KTFO on more than one occasion and sooner than later he will be KOed again, if he ever fights a fighter with more than one dimension, i only give Pac credit for one fight since moving up and thats Cotto and even he was at a catchweight and recently destroyed. If Pac and his team see's that a fighter is in decline and has a recent loss of confidence then they will fight you, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito and now Shane tell me what they all have in common, they all suffered the worst defeats of their careers prior to Pac choosing to fight them, yet his fans are so blinded by this illusion they can't see the truth but i can. Everyone Pac has fought in these higher weights hasn't done **** since, except for maybe Cotto, although Yuri Foreman really isn't impressive, it's time for Pac to face trhe unknown, fight an undefeated fighter who's on a winning streak and don't fight some who by Roach's own admission looks bad in their previous fights.
Trust me, I'm not much of a Pac fan and I've criticized the match making for what it is (save Cotto). However, he does have a proven chin at welterweight (as much as can be proven, not a whole lot of 1 punch guys in that division). He got hit pretty frequently against Cotto in the first half of the fight and seemed to take it ok. Margarito also caught him with some good shots as well and didn't faze Pac. I could be wrong, but Pac's last KO was when he was fighting at 112lbs and he was KO'd on a body shot. And I also believe his first KO was also by a body shot. That's not a measure of how tough the chin is.
And Berto has only been down once and Pac has been knockedout by a headshot aswell, but the guy is so unknown i don't even remember his name, and he's also been knocked down from headshots, now if you're saying Pacs chin has somehow improved then i can also say that Berto has aswell, it's been over three years since he's been rattled.
No. Pac has not been KO'd by a head shot, just looked it up both of his KO losses were by bodyshots. Berto may not have been rattled but that slip he had against Quintana could have very easily been ruled a KD.
berto has the speed and power, but against a south paw fireing back i feel like he will hit the deck.i never seen that happen but thats what i think judgeing him by his fight with collazo.but his was still green then and still some think he is, for mayweather or manny this is the guy to beat if you want it to mean anything as far as beating one of the best.though on paper i can see atleast for manny how lucrative a fight with jmm or mosley could be.now one want to admit me but me but real talk berto is high risk low reward for manny or floyd.
Berto wont be hitting Pac until Pac wants to take some just to see what Berto has. Not sure why Pac likes to do that. I mean Berto would fight Pac. Cause in reality even a small percentage purse of a Pac fight will probably be bigger than any other he might ever have. Millions...