Jimmy Braddock Versus David Tua

Tua gets underrated around here, everyone knows he was a monster puncher but his defense and technical skills get very underrated. 1 problem for Tua was he was so short, but he isn't giving up as much height here and has a massive weight and strength advantage. I like Braddock but I really can't see him being able to stay away from Tua for 12-15rounds and I wouldn't be suprised if Tua finished him early. Obviously a metador-bull contest

 

The fighter that could put Braddock away inside one round has never breathed, and never will.

This was a tough, durable guy, who knew how to survive.

 

Braddock UD.

 

I wouldnt bet on it, myself, but i think that the record of Tyson, Sullivan, Fitzsimmons and maybe (though less likely) Foreman would be a decent chance. I understand your point though, and i see no way that Tua would do it! I know tua has the occasional first round KO on his record, but none are in the class of Braddock, particularly not their chins.

 

Braddock gets stopped in a few rounds .. too light, no left hand, hittable, slower than Tua ... people overrate Braddock because of his feel good story but forget the majority of his career he was a lower top ten light heavyweight with a bad hand .. Jim had a terrific chin, a good right hand and all the heart in the world but this is a terrible match up for him ..

 

In a grueling career, Braddock was only knocked out clean in the late rounds by the ulimate finisher, Joe Louis. Assuming both show up at their best, Tua fails to get the stoppage and he isn't getting the decision. Braddock UD.

 

To expand the topic a bit futher, how would these guys have done against each others best opponents?

Braddock against Byrd, Moorer Ramhan (Il let him off fighting Lewis)

Tua against Baer, Farr, Lasky, Lewis (Il let him off fighting Louis)

 

The difference is there is a 35-40lb weight advantage between Tua and Braddock. Rather than weighing in at the same limit, they are essentially at least a few weight divisions apart. And Tua is far stronger. Throwing around lightheavies and cruisers proves you are a strong lightheavy or cruiser. Step into the ring with modern heavies and it is a different story. I don't see why this fact is so hard to fathom.

 

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Me neither, I mean, come on those slow, fat, plodding hws with lacking stamina surely don´t have a chance against the faster, leaner, more skilled hws with a more balanced training and better stamina of the past. :good

 

Only if you give Tua extra points for carrying a lot of surplus fat.

By the time Braddock was fighting at heavyweight he weighed 195lbs and was taking on guys around the 210 mark.

I don't think that an in shape Tua would be a big strp up in weigfht for him.

 

Tua could certainly knock fighter's out, but his power may be overrated in the sense that one clean connection is instant death from the guy, even if you buy into the Ike is invincible theory..Wooden, Byrd and Lewis took several flush punches from him.

And I fail to see how Tua is an exceptional large man in contrast to someone like Baer..who in fantastic shape weighed around 210, was 6'2.5 with an 81" wingspan. At 5'9" Tua only weighed 200-225 during his reasonable fit years.

 

It is not based on size alone of course. That's a total diversion of the argument. Tua at his best had world class skills, well-groomed amateur background and good Duva schooling. And at 225, he was hardly fat, as someone earlier suggested. I have had the pleasure of watching him train and fight. He was unworldly strong.

Braddock would have to play matador the entire distance, every second of every round. I think Tua's pace and power would get to him. I just don't see what even the best version of Braddock has to dissuade him. And yes, I have seen a lot of Braddock footage.

 

Look at his tree trunk legs, thick abdominals, boulder like shoulders and thats not mentioning his bone density. The man is/was a bull