Where do you guys rank Manny Pacquiao all time status

top 50 for sure, outside 50 is downright absurd.

 

Wherever he is he is below Marquez. Between 50 and 100 for me.

 

I don't mean to insult but I think Dempsey is very overrated. I think he is one of those guys that gets put in top 10 lists because people keep saying it to eachother and make him more popular instead of his resume.
I also would like to know where langford is in that list, I would either rank him arguello ezzard charles whitaker, joe gans, greb,roy jones jr, pacquiao over him and jack johnson.
But that does not mean I have them all top 10 or something.
Here is a clip of Ali breaking down Dempsey:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPiLGbDrGnw[/ame]

 

His what of what?

atsch:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Despite all that you still rank him top 15 :think

 

Yes thats exactly what I think is the problem, a lot of people make lists based on other lists and what is assumed common by people who seem to know their boxing.
Im 23 years old and over the recent years I studied a lot of fighters from the Ali period till now, and I think im capable of making a fair honest judgement of who to rate where in that timeperiod. But Oldtimers is more difficult for me. I only saw some fights, highlights and read things but can I really place someone at a place just on that? So therefore that actually makes me unqualified to say pac is top 20, because one would actually ahve to know the whole history of the sport and all the major fighters. That would take a very long time. I think 95% of the people here have not seen all the great fighters boxing has given to us. So that means only people on the classic section and some people here are capable of making that lists, but they sometimes appear biased a bit to me by ranking oldtimers very highly and modern fighters relatively low, that seems a bit unfair to me.

 

good post

 

I put Pac in the 30 to 40 range right along with Mayweather. As far as who is ahead of the other, when they fight and in the way the loser loses, will be one of the deciding factors for me.

And to the 4 who voted Pac as GOAT, we know the man is spiritual, we know hes a congressman, we know the man has a voice of an angel, and is an actor comparable to Humphery ****in Bogart, but you cant be serious.

 

LMAO at ripcity. Never fails to amaze.

 

If you remove the extremes (GOAT, 50-100, outside top 100) you see the graph is skewing towards 11-20, which is where most in the boxing industry have Pac at the moment. Good job ESB.

 

21-50 is very realistic..