Why did USADA stop blood testing Floyd & Shane 18 days prior to their fight?

Eze,
I still dont see why they need six to eight hours when even as you admit that prefight prep is about a half hour and then the fight is only another half hour .

..but anyway do you agree with me that Xylocaine is a PED that can diminish fight stress, increase recovery and increase indurance via adrenaline suppression? ...and that Floyd possibly wants USADA because of it and pain?

We dont really know how Hoya's hand was injected exactly and to say its not suspicious is really stretching

 

Wrapped the hands, put the gloves on, warm up, walk out, introductions... on top of that any delays that make happen.

It's a PED on fight night yes. In the states that its illegal.

We do know that it was one hand, to numb a cut he hand received.

 

Emailed the NSAC, Keith Kizer himself responded to me.

On 12/6/2010 5:24 PM, Keith Kizer wrote:
> Xylocaine is not a banned substance. (It may have been in the past but I am not sure as to when.) Nevertheless if a boxer plans to use it for a bout in Nevada, he needs to get clearance from the Nevada Athletic Commission.

 

The amount of local anesthetics is very dependent on how it is given.

As in most port insertion procedures, it is very local and therefore, it is hard to completely block every nerve endings with a single injection. Therefore, you tend to give 3 to four shots around the periphery of the site, in smaller volumes.

However if you are doing a regional block, then more volume is given but directed at specifi8c nerve root, like in hand surgeries under local anesthetics where they do a radial nerve block or ulnar nerve block. And the voulme is much higher up to 2-3 mL than what you use for local infiltrative anesthetics, llike suturing simple wounds.

Nurses has to pull the punger for backflow to make sure that the needle is not in the vein in any procedure otherwise you give it into central circulation. Lidocaine has adverse effects when in central circulation but it is also used for cardiac arrythmias.

And regardeing the forms of lidocaine (or Xylocaine as brand name), the action is prolonged by addition of epinephrine. That is what you are probably referrijng to as the longer acting. There is only one form of it,. However, if epinephrine is added, it constricts the microvasculature (small blood vessels) thereby prolonging its local results and decreases absorption by several hours.

 

game over if that's true lol!
Eze KOs maracho

 

In your feverish mirage

Thanks to Eze, that week old email only further proves my prior responses to you that Xilocaine is double standardly banned and that they clear who they want to clear. and that we dont know when exactly it was banned

Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout.“If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city" Keith said that because “It is not a prohibited substance under WADA or USADA”; it’s not banned by the State Athletic Commission. However, Keith Kizer noted that the commission has added some stipulations to the use of Xylocaine. “We don’t want fighters to use it on fight day. We make sure they have full physicals to check for this. They will be told to stop doing this from the weigh-in through the fight. Fighters must only take Tylenol or ice for any pain.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3019074.ece

NSAC

 

Week old?

He responded to me an hour and half ago. 5:24 exactly is when he responded.

I did email him back and ask him about Lidocaine, Lidocaine was in the subject line of the first email but I brought up Xylocaine during the email.

We'll see what he comes back with.


Anyway though. Floyds only been accused of Xylocaine and Mr Kizer confirmed that its not even illegal.

 

I hardly ever know the date but how does this help your case? Why do they give certain fighters clearance and not others. This email only strengthens my own assertions of commission bias. You yourself made the claim that xylocaine was banned the week before a fight and so has Kizer--just google the quotes that I provided.

see where you said it over and over again?

 

I keep mixing Xylocaine and Lidocaine up.

They are technically suppose to be the same thing. But I was wrong about Xylocaine (possibly Lido as well).



Bias though?

If Xylocaine is legal and they boxers have to request it, then whats bias in that?

 

Lidocaine is the generic name for Xylocaine so now your just wrong about "how" you are all wrong

If its totally legal then why do they need to give a clearance? Its because they want to control who has advantages

 

The NSAC refers to them as two different things from what we have seen.



I have no idea, Ive been mixed and was kind of shocked when Kizer emailed me that response.




Even with that said, Floyds done nothing wrong, which was the whole point of bringing Xylocaine into this topic.

 

Ha ha that doesnt surprise me that the NSAC calls them two different things--it either proves they are lying are ignorant or both which I have said all along. Oh and Please be so kind to provide me the link

You were just convinced moments earlier that Xylocaine was a PED but now your convinced that he has done nothing wrong simply because a commission gives him clearance?

 

It's a PED if its illegal.


If EPO was legal, I would be fine with it. Though its illegal so Im not.

 

Something I have learnt on ESB is that the radical liberal holds man-made rules very sacred

a mans opinion does not make it any less enhancing, at least in the general sense

 

Xylocaine is apparently legal in Nevada but it is illegal in other states!

That alone makes it questionable.

It is like death penalty in Texas is legal but not in other states, or prostitution, or weed (marijuana).

Just because it is legal that it is morally right!

It clearly gives a fighter an advantage, as well as a disadvantage (numbing your hand makes it impervious to pain but also risky for hand damage).

Commonsense dictates that it should be illegal........ If a fighter can not fight anymore because of injuries, then he should not do so because of risk associated with it. Simply as that....This is not like a paracetamol if you have headache.... There is more implication to use of Lidocaine than just a simple analogy of Aspirin (which you can not use if you fight toherwise you will bleed to death) or paracetamol.