Anyone who thinks prime ali would beat prime tyson

AGREE with everything you said m8, v.knowlegable, Xpert,, proffesional, unbiased post. happy

 

Unforgiven, you a genius And a Tyson-Xpert, please tell me how Tyson does in Prime fights Vs these men -

[list NOT in order]

1. Ali
2. Foreman
3. Lewis
4. Holmes
5. Bowe
6. Holyfield
7. Louis
8. Old Foreman
9. Frazier
10. Wlad
11. Liston
12. Marciano
13. Johnson
14. Vitali
15. Dempsey

 

I'm interested in participating to see how I differ- Here goes:

1. Ali - Ali TKO12
2. Foreman - Foreman KO2
3. Lewis - Lewis TKO8
4. Holmes - Holmes W15
5. Bowe - Bowe TKO7/Tyson KO5
6. Holyfield - Tyson TKO9
7. Louis - Tyson KO2
8. Old Foreman - Tyson W15
9. Frazier - Tyson TKO3/Frazier TKO10
10. Wlad - Tyson KO2
11. Liston - Tyson KO3
12. Marciano - Tyson TKO2
13. Johnson - ??? Tyson KO4
14. Vitali - Tyson TKO8
15. Dempsey - Tyson KO3

 

teh 1st 3 guesses are Xpert. :thumbsup

Foreman DESTROYS Prime Tyson like he DESTROYED Prime Frazier.

Lennox would ALWAYS KTFO Tyson in 8 Roundz or less.
Fangirls complain Tyson past-prime in 2002 - BUT Lennox was v.past-prime aswell!!! You can see their physical condition is both past-prime equally IMO -

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You must admit, though, that Lewis had a hell of alot more left than Tyson. Tyson probably wasn't even 40% of what he was at his peak.

 

Okay, here's my best guesses.

1. Ali - Ali KO 9
2. Foreman - Foreman KO 1
3. Lewis - ? Lewis PTS or Tyson KO early
4. Holmes - Holmes TKO 11
5. Bowe - Bowe KO 6 (wild brawl)
6. Holyfield - Holyfield TKO 9
7. Louis - Louis KO 3
8. Old Foreman - Old Foreman KO 5
9. Frazier - Frazier TKO 7
10. Wlad - ? Tyson early KO or either one on PTS
11. Liston - Liston KO 3
12. Marciano - Marciano KO 9
13. Johnson - Johnson late TKO or either one on PTS
14. Vitali - Tyson PTS
15. Dempsey - Dempsey KO4

Perhaps I underrate the Klitschkos because they are current, but their records aren't any better than Tyson's either.
Lennox Lewis got KO'd one punch by Hasim Rahman so I don't think he's at all bankable against Tyson, who could punch hard and fast. I think he'd be too cautious against a young version of Tyson to go for the KO but might win on points.

The others are more reliable than Tyson. And great fighters all of them.

 

True, but that aint Lewis's fault. LL wasnt prime either and was also the older of the two.

 

Xpert point m8. :thumbsup

It was Tysons' fault, cos he DUCKED Lenny in 1995, 1996, 2000 And 2001. :deal

In 2002 they were BOTH Old [Lewis OLDER!!], past-prime hulks with some FLAB - BUT Lenny DOMINATED And DESTROYED him, so it a GREAT win IMO.

In 2002 -

Tyson was 60% of his PEAK. [95% of PEAK in Round 1]

Lenny was 70% of his PEAK.

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teh evidence is on FILM for all to see. :deal



Foreman Hoooooooooook!:hat:smoke:hat

 

Xpert-Predictions m8. :thumbsup

ONLY problem i have is IMO Lenny Lewis would always DOMINATE Tyson with teh long jab [eXactly like Bummy Douglas did] And holding, then KTFO a GASSED Tyson in Roundz 6-8. :deal

 

29 yes but prime no. He was at least 8 years past that. However I do agree that ali would beat tyson.

 

atschNeither were close to their peaks once they finally fought but if you believe this then you really need to do your research. If anything, Lewis was much closer to his peak than Tyson was as a few years later he turned Vitali into a bloody mess. Tyson didn't accomplish anything close to that after he fought Lewis so clearly Lewis had much more in the tank to give than Tyson.

 

I think this will give many perspectives on the accuracy of your take on Tyson.

The idea that Dempsey, Frazier, Marciano, Johnson, and Bowe KO Tyson is absurd sounding to the sane fan. Even Louis KOing Tyson seems far-fetched.

But then again, I'm referring to someone who thinks Frazier had a better chin than Tyson.

 

Louis KOing Tyson seems far-fetched ??!!
How the hell can you figure that when Tyson was KO'd by Buster Douglas and Evander Holyfield ?
Same goes for all those others.

Hey, my predictions are just a bit of fun, I don't really know which rounds those men would beat Tyson if it were real, and, yes, Tyson might even prove me wrong against one or two of them.

But your claims are absolute nonsense and what is known as Tyson-nuthuggery. To suggest that Louis KOing Tyson is "far-fetched" is the height of Tyson myth stupidity.

I don't know what Frazier's chin and Tyson's chin has to do with it. Tyson was stopped by lesser fighters than the ones who stopped Frazier, and beat lesser fighters too. Tyson is just inferior to Frazier by any reasonable standard.

 

Dick !