Anyone tired about hearing how skilled Floyd is?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Gander Tasco, Dec 8, 2010.

  1. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2010
    Messages:
    19,438
    Likes Received:
    24
    Seriously everywhere you go, even haters won't stop themselves from proclaiming how unbeatable and ungodly his boxing skills are.

    Anyone just want to slap themselves for having to hear this **** over and over? It's obvious none of these guys have followed boxing or studied the sport to make a comment like that.

    I'm just getting tired of it. Call me a hater all you want, but I appreciate Floyd's skills and he can be entertaing to watch if he wants to be. But he's not that good. Believe me.

    There have been better counterpunchers -

    There have been better defensive fighters

    There have been far better offensive fighters

    There have been better boxers.

    Floyd used to impress me but today he's doesn't one bit. He has an extremely limited punch arsenal . 9/10 times you can expect him to throw 3 different punches: a lead left hook, a straight right, or a jab. As a defensive fighter he doesn't even show much versatility. He always looks to counter with a right hand over the jab, which he sets up in a very obvious way. Or he looks for a left hook.

    An old De La Hoya who isn't known for a great defense was parrying/blocking most of Floyd's shots and even making him miss completely at some points. There's a reason for this: Floyd doesn't throw combinations... EVER. That's a pretty glaring flaw. Combinations create openings. If you know the other guy only looks for one punchs, and it's usually going to be left hook or a straight, and not a bodyshot... your gonna block most of his **** just by keeping a tight defense. Castillo did it and so did Hoya, both guys not known for having a great defense.

    Floyd biggest asset - his defense can be broken. He doesn't have the most versatile defense. He always defends punches in the exact same way at the same angles. He always looks for the shoudler roll and bends down at the waist. This is an effective defense but Floyd overuses it. Watch a prime Bernard Hopkins or James Toney (or hell even Leonard), who could not only use the shoulder roll but parry shots off from either side and roll off to different angles. Floyd is always in the same positions every single time he gets attacked. It's effective for him because he's fast, but if you know how to attack somebody in these positions, and what punches to throw, you can expose it.

    Here's the bottom line: Floyd is good but he has ONE STYLE. Watch his dad Floyd Sr. when he used to box. It's the same style basically except Floyd is a lot more quick and athletic. He not ****ing houdini or Bruce Lee. He's beatable, and he's flawed just like the rest. His chin isn't great. He's not much of a puncher. He can be outboxed if he doesn't posses physical advantages over you. His lack of body punching and combination punching is glaring flaw that can be exposed. Pacquiao would expose these flaws.

    If Pacquiao wasn't smaller then Floyd... I wouldn't give Floyd ANY chance to win that fight.


    Btw, the most impressive thing about Floyd is not his defense it's his accuracy. He's one of the most pin-point accurate guys (punch for punch) I've ever seen, and THAT impresses me. His defense doesn't impress because I've seen better defense from other guys. But he is so damn accurate with single shots it makes guys very hesitant to come to him.
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2010
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    24
    This content is protected


    YDSAB
     
  3. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Messages:
    7,011
    Likes Received:
    139
    :dead:dead:dead
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    51,943
    Likes Received:
    2
    :lol: WTF?!? Where do you come up with this ****? Do you expect Roach to go and fight for Pac or something?
     
  5. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2009
    Messages:
    28,924
    Likes Received:
    20
    Well he is kind of right, FLoyd gets overrated because of his 0, once he loses that haters will have their kryptonite.
     
  6. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    8,708
    Likes Received:
    82

    LOL, so Floyd who gets hit the least in the sport, and has the highest punch accuracy in the sport is flawed, while Pacquiao who gets busted up in every fight is guy who exposes flaws???
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    51,943
    Likes Received:
    2
    Where do you get that? :huh
     
  8. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2010
    Messages:
    19,438
    Likes Received:
    24
    I just get sick of it. I hear all the time from boxing fans I talk too, and I can't convince them that Floyd isn't superman. But your right, once/if he loses the myth is going to go .
     
  9. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2010
    Messages:
    5,823
    Likes Received:
    0
    poor floyd! :sad
     
  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2010
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    24
    No I expect Roach to watch tapes of Floyd and come up with a gameplan.
     
  11. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2004
    Messages:
    12,223
    Likes Received:
    1
    HBO every broadcast.
     
  12. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2010
    Messages:
    19,438
    Likes Received:
    24
    Every fighter is flawed. Styles make fights. EVERYONE CAN LOSE, PERIOD. Ray Robinson lost. Ali lost. Leonard lost. Floyd won't give himself a chance to lose. That doesn't make him better.
     
  13. sosolid4u09

    sosolid4u09 4 8 15 16 23 42 banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2008
    Messages:
    12,433
    Likes Received:
    3
    I see your point. but im afraid floyd IS that talented. Hes certainly not one dimensional.

    If he stayed at 130-135 where he was a monster this wouldnt even be a discussion. His resume is disappointing at welterweight there's no doubt about it. And also his actions lately have left him open to tonnes of abuse! Most of the time when people slag him off i can see exactly where they are coming from.

    But one thing no-one denies is his skill and talent level.
    He may be an ass, and he does a lot of **** that gets him a lot of hate. But you cant deny the fact that he is supremely gifted and talented.
     
  14. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2010
    Messages:
    19,438
    Likes Received:
    24
    I'm sure Roach knows exactly how to deal with Floyd already. He knew back in the De La Hoya fight, but Hoya couldn't execute and was too passed it. Pacquiao has the style to get the job done, and Floyd is too past his best to beat him imo.
     
  15. horst

    horst Guest

    I agree. All fighters with zeroes are overrated by casual fans, but in Floyd's case it is becoming a bit ridiculous.

    The guy has never beaten one single prime HOF-calibre fighter in his career, and in some of his biggest fights he has been unimpressive (Castillo 1, Oscar).

    Pernell Whitaker was far better than Floyd Mayweather in pretty much every way, and would've spanked him silly if Pea came along a decade later than he did. His jab alone would be too much for 'Money'.

    Floyd has a great defence and a great straight right hand, but his combination-throwing ability is nothing to write home about, and nor is his chin. He is eminently beatable, if he ever again fights someone the right side of 30.