Heavyweight talent in the mid eighties..

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  1. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone looks at the mid eighties and the heavyweights they often nominate this period as lost years with fighters showing lack of desire and conditioning.. Holmes and Tyson apart there were a lot of fragmented championship belts and short term holders.. But who out of all of them had talent..

    IMO .. Greg Page and Pinklon Thomas had amazing skills that were overlooked because of the way they conducted themselves outside the ring (Drugs.. Thomas) (Conditioning ..Page) There was also the fast hands of the chunky Tony Tubbs and Mike Dokes.. Very overlooked pretenders like James Broad were in the mix.. Mike Weaver..TNT Tucker but who of all of these cats had real talent that would dominate in another time or another place.. Interesting..

    God bless..
     
  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Page was the most talented heavyweight of the era. He was also the laziest.
     
  3. Woddy

    Woddy Guest

    A well trained Trevor Berbick has my vote for being one of the better fighters of that bunch. Tim Witherspoon and Mike Weaver are good picks to. If all these guys were at their very best ( and I emphasize "if" ), they might have been very good fights for champions of other eras like Dempsey, Marciano and Louis.
     
  4. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tim Whitherspoon would be the King of the Lost Generation, except you know he would either be to lazy or to ****ed to go to his own Coronation.;)
     
  5. Ion85

    Ion85 The Countdown Kid Full Member

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    Tim Witherspoon was very talented just like Pinklon Thomas and Greg Page were. The 80s was not as bad as people made it out to be.
     
  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh they were; we had Thatcher to start off with.;)
     
  7. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    80s were better than dempseys era and the 30s.
     
  8. Langford

    Langford Active Member Full Member

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    As good as the 80's fighters were, there never was (and thankfully, hasn't been) an era so dominated by fighters who were able to look so good at one moment, and so bad the next due to drugs, money, lazyness, etc.
     
  9. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    A lot of those guys were decent "meat and potatoes" fighters.
     
  10. biglads

    biglads Climbing the WBO Rankings Full Member

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    A side order of Coke too.
     
  11. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I'd take Mike Tyson over most of these guys.

    Hey, you said mid 80's. Tyson won the title in 1986. I know that's not what you meant, just fooling around.

    I really do think some of those guys were pretty talented. Tubbs was a decent boxer, and it took top 20 guys to beat him up until his mid 30's. Thomas had skills, just not a big will to win. Dokes had a will to compete, just not to train. Weaver was strong, but not a great student of his craft. Everyone had a critical flaw or two, but on any given night could have been a handful for most anyone.
     
  12. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    Forget it, Tyson was all pomp and circumstance during his brief/dominant prime. At least that is what some think/post :lol:
     
  13. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably Greg Page.He had all the tools,was just lazy and didn't have probably the best business sense.
     
  14. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Aside from Tyson and Holmes (the undisputed best two of the decade), I'd say overall (in order):

    Witherspoon
    Thomas
    Page (perhaps the most naturally talented of this bunch)
    Weaver
    Berbick
    Williams
    Dokes
    Tubbs


    ... I've left Tucker out of the equation since he was a Joe Bugner replica regarding offensive desire (or lack of!). Plus the fact that the majority of his career record was padded out by feasting on utter tomato cans. How he gained the title shots he did is anybody's guess. :huh
     
  15. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    A lot of them had talent. But talent alone isn't worth much.

    I do think the 80s heavyweights were better than the 00s heavyweights (today's) and probably just as good as the 90s heavyweights.
    I reckon the heavyweight division has been in a continous slump since the 1970s in all likelihood, perhaps longer.