Question ?What say you on Maidana/Khan ?

I'll be honest, I don't know much about Maidana or the men he's knocked out, so I can't really say that.
I just take it on faith that he's a "big puncher".

Well, I noticed Khan keeping tucked in at all times when Maidana was close and piling in.
Of course, I expect both our first time "live" viewings will get revised on second viewing.
I'll take your interpretation on board.

I mean, he took a physical beating. He was still totally in the fight, but the punishment and pace of the fight would have diminished his strength and power.

Well, he's only fought 2 good punchers as a professional.
Last night he may have taken a lot of good shots but he also looked on the verge of being stopped.
The other time he fought a puncher he was knocked in 1 round.
He's also been knocked down by two other fighters, one of whom is bona fide "powder puff".

His chin is weak at world level.

I still think he could possibly go on to be an elite pound-for-pound fighter.

 

Just want to add that while I do think it is undeniable that khan`s chin will always be his potential downfall and that it is frankly weak, his heart and fighting spirit make up for that in spades as heart goes a long way towards keeping you on your feet when stunned and in trouble, and Khan showed hes a ballsy fighter who won`t yield or panic when hurt.

 

you dont think if Maidana was able to land more of those upercuts on the inside and smash Khan to the body in close he would not have been able to wear out Khan a little more?

cortez took that opportunity away from Maidana, the ref also took that point away from Maidana for a shot that didnt land... it was all to Khans favor and I dont think it is being exaggerated.

it is also true that maidana's most powerful punches were at mid-range but he needed to those shots on the inside to batter khan and slow him down for the shots at medium distance to land - or at least land more.

 

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A couple of them do.

But more than half of them vindicate my recollections of the fight.
I think Khan took every uppercut in that way, on his face, with his chin tucked down. Not flush on the chin.

 

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Okay, but a reason we make judgments on punch resistance with active fighters is to make predictions on future fights, or to know what is reasonable to expect. We don't just make the judgemnt of off one fight.

Khan survived a big puncher last night. But he looked in all sorts of trouble too. And added to his history, his chin is still worth being stamped "weak".

I think people are underestimating his spirit and his guile a bit though.

 

great fight I thought khan was done in the 10th round man

 

Khan's unreliable chin against the likes of Limond, Gomez and Prescott was mainly due to him struggling with the weight in my opinion. If he was at lightweight and in with a fighter with the equal power of Maidana at the weight, he'd almost certainly have been knocked out last night.

Khan's punch resistance and recovery powers have improved because he's moved up in weight combined with his superb conditioning under Freddie Roach and Alex Ariza.

Only fighters with truely concrete chins, Hagler and Chavez, would have taken those type of shots and not even blinked last night. It only takes one shot from Maidana and your either seriously hurt or on your ass, again unless your chin is exceptional.

Khan showed last night that he could take serious punches from a fighter with the reputation as a puncher and not go down. Thats a serious chin in my opinion. When he was hurt and taking follow up shots only to come back and fire off sharp punches, thats recovery powers. During the 10th round Khan was hurt but came right back with good effective punches of his own.

People are hard pleased. Khan doesn't have a chin like Lamotta or Hagler. Not many fighters possess that super human ability to take shots from a lethal puncher and not even blink.

Final conclusion: Khan's chin and recovery powers were impressive last night. You can't doctor it up any other way.

 

It is still not denying the fact that he should have been a much wider winner IMO. His chin, or vulnerability, made it closer than it should have been. Like I said I would expect Alexander or Bradley to be much clearer winners. As quite frankly Maidana is very limited.

Do you mean last night, or during his career?

I agree last night his survival instincts were top class.

And I agree Roach is a top class trainer.

Going into it, in my eyes any half-solid punch landed on Khan even by a weak puncher, would have a reaction by me. He really was proper chinny. I think its the Barrera fight where he get **** with a left hook and the commentator almost takes an orgasm on how he was able to take it.

I would say he has proven himself fairly resistant. In that he wont just be a KO waiting to happen anymore and he has a slight safety margin now to work with.

A Limond left hook should do the trick.... Oh! wait....

A good fight is a good fight. Cheers RB, there has been bad snow in Scotland and I was scared you had sent them and they would be caught up in the post-snow chaos and perhaps be lost, but everything has returned to some form of normality in terms of the post here.

I mean Maidana needed room to finish Khan.

 

Yeah, he took that punch on the chin but his legs did a silly dance. I don't know if that means he has a good chin or a weak chin, it's kind of inconclusive.

 

You get me wrong mate, i was not refering to yourself in particular. Nor do i think he has a granite chin. But that is what people will always go back to when it comes to Khan, his chin. I dont think its aaaaaanywhere near as bad as some people will try to have us believe. Indeed i think too much is made out of it.