Tony F ucking Bellew!

That's fair but someone like Hopkins would be much more able to teach boxing ability and craftiness than someone like Michael Katsidis for example.

 

I don't mind opinions but I saw a few ppl calling him Tony bellend and tha. Keep it to boxing that's what the forums are about.

 

Agree. No need for name calling.

 

I was merely pointing out this persons contradictory nature.

In his first post he calls Bellew, bell end, then in his next post says he wishes no bad vibes and wishes him all the best.

A mixed up character, don't you think?

Yes, Tony DOES swear and yes, it does get picked up by the cameras but he's just spent the best part of half an hour in a confined area with another man trying to punch holes in him. That would make the best of us exciteable to say the least.

And for what it's worth I don't agree with narking at the ref, but hey ho.

I say avoided with reference to Ajisafe and McKenzie because Cleverly never fought them on his way to domestic domination, did he?

 

No but he faced and beat Oakey, Fry and McIntosh who would all beat Ajisafe and McEnzie. There not avoided they just sell no tickets.

 

Look at Freddie, 2 of his best students are ultra talented guys who pull off moves that are very difficult. He teaches them things he wouldn't do.

 

Well I'm sorry but AVOIDING a fighter because he "doesn't sell tickets" isn't an argument that stands up for me.

Does that mean that Tony Bellew took these fights because less tickets would be sold therefore less people would see them make him look bad?

Don't talk daft!

If they're likely to cause a problem or show a boxer up, they're avoided.

In the current climate would David Haye swerve the Klitschko's because they sold no tickets?

Would Carl Froch avoid Bute, Ward or Kessler because they don't sell tickets?

I think not. I know they're looking to make money but essentially they have to take the hard fights to cement their own position in the respective divisions.

 

Would he f-ck m8, so ur saying ie pernell whitaker wouldnt b able to teach a pressure fighter better than ricky hatton if they both were coaches?

 

No :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Put it this way billy graham was a stand up boxer, but he found training pressure fighters a lot easier.

 

Did/do you rate graham as a trainer mate ? I personally think the wheels fell off a bit when he got the boot. I also heard he was getting too big a head aswell whilst training hatton. Probably all bollox though. Your doing a fantastic job mate, keep up the good work with your fighters

 

It's a good point.

Lets take Hatton and Pernell as examples. I suppose Hatton would know a bit about training a slick Degale-type fighter because his style was about getting to those fighters and analyzing their weaknesses, so he knows their strengths.

Similarly Pernell could teach a pressure fighter because his style was countering them and beating them with slick punches and great defense so he knows how they should fight in order to give him problems.

However, Pernell is just a smarter fighter than Hatton all round and knows more about the game. I'd say he would be a better trainer for a pressure fighter than Hatton because he knew so much about the game and could add technical ability to the pressure whereas Hatton would try to teach the fighter to be a carbon copy of himself.

 

Saturday was the first time I've seen him and I was impressed by the way the knock downs didn't phase him. Can't see why he's getting any stick at all and if that's the way he fights every bout, coming forward and chucking leather, then he's exciting to watch. Good on yir mate!

 

Firstly let me say I like Tony Bellew a lot, I think he is very game and his fights are always very watchable.
However I feel like some of the others on here that during the troubled moments of this fight he would have been better served with more insightfull and appropriate corner instructions other than think about the kids and xmas???
Now I will say that I dont know Tony personally and obviously Arnie does so I am probably wrong but I just thought I would have preferred to hear "Tony come on!! Get that jab workin, double jab and then bring in the big left hand, more lateral head movement etc etc...."

 

I suppose a little bit of that may be down to how well Tony responds to instruction. If he responds better to the rallying cry than the technical speak, then maybe that is why its done.

I suppose we are both just guessing, but I do take your point.

Whatever else about him, he's exciting to watch and that alone may get him to where he needs to be.