wtf did Kostya Tszyu do to get into the HOF ????

That's not the way the judges felt - Mitchell was behind in the scorecards before it was stopped.

 

I don't think Mitchell hurt his knee in the fight with Tszyu. He carried the injury into the ring with him. So why quit after seven rounds? Because Tszyu was zeroing in that's why.

In the words of Sharmba himself when asked how he damaged his knee:

"I re-injured an old injury. Three days before the fight it was really bothering me. It kept going numb and then I would get the feeling back with the blood clot removed here and there. When you are in that type of situation it's almost like a person that has not been cut in the ring before until a big fight or being real tired and they sit and panic. I didn't know what to do at the time. My managers wanted to call it off and they actually did but when I had my promoter behind me he said to go and do what I can do. You have two hours before the fight and you have the networks, promoters, casinos etc and it could come back to haunt you as far as lawsuits and things of that nature and you have the press to deal with. One punch changes everything in boxing and it almost happened for me. I proved that I am a man and a warrior. I proved that Kostya Tszyu really couldn't touch me."

Yeah, especially when you quit because you feel the impending doom of a landed punch.

 

Yeah I had Tszyu just ahead in that fight. It wasn't as if Mitchell was dominating him. Shamba was doing well early, but Tszyu adjusted and Mitchell was doing nothing but getting KTFO and he knew it - hence he pulled the pin.

 

Dominated his division.

 

I'd have to agree with SS to an extent with Tyszu's skill. Yes he has skills but limited ones. His defense is pretty much wide open, relying mainly on reflexs/parrying, which he isn't that hot on, so he got hit more often than necessary. His jab is more of a range finder. His in fighting skills are pretty poor and he needs space to punch, in close quarters he's pretty much incapacitated.

But what he does well, great punch technique, timing, use of distance, punch selection, counter punching, punch placement

 

He did but I don't think he beat a big guy as good as Tyszu

 

C'mon Scientist, to say that you opinion is that Tszyu wins anyway is one thing, but to insinuate that Sharmba faked having reinjured or say that the knee injury was'nt a factor is not being truthful to the happening.


Its been so long I could'nt debate the actual specifics of the knee injury and how it effected Mitchell round by round.......I have no doubt however that Mitchel injured or re-injured (does'nt matter) his knee during the fight, and it effected his ability to manuever the ring.

 

Really? You actually pointed out that I was being ignorant and uneducated. That implies that you have superior knowledge to me about the sport. Do you deny it now?

Again, implying that you know more than me by trying to put me down. Don't deny it buddy

All I've done is engage in boxing talk. You're the one calling me ignorant and uneducated. Humility starts with a mirror

Tszyu couldn't make the adjustments needed because he is limited as a fighter. Not to say he's a bad fighter, he's a very good one, but he has his limitations. It's not as if he got hammered with only one shot before being taken out. He could see that Phillips was standing up to his power, and he did try and box a bit more, but he was undone because of a lack of defense, a lack of stamina and a lack of knowing when to hold and rough it on the inside.

 

His skills were not limited; first off, his combinations were picture perfect. His straight was perfect. His body shots were perfect.

His defense was great, *when* he wanted to use it. I think he fell in love with his power and the hype around it which is why he got hit more than he should have. Just check out his fight with Forrest; great defense.

His jab was a range finder; it was also very powerful when he used it as an actual jab.

Close quarters; nothing wrong with him. Just because he lost to the British Hulk Hogan, doesn't mean he has no in-game.

 

Vlade, I think he quit because he was about to lose more than he did because of his leg injury. The leg injury gave him the excuse not to continue. Was it impairing his performance? Over the last couple of rounds maybe a little, but I still think he would have fought on if he thought he could win the fight, which he didn't.

 

Don't think anyone would deny that.

So when did his love affair with power make him abandon his defense? I saw him get hit plenty so early as the fights with Hector Lopez and Hugo Pineda. Had he ALREADY fell in love with his power then?

Tszyu didn't have great defense at any time. His offense was just usually good enough to more than compensate.

True, but when range finding, he often left himself open defensively.

Well, it wasn't JUST Ricky Hatton that exposed this. Guys like Oktay Urkal were giving Tszyu plenty of trouble on the inside.

 

He beat the likes of Ross, Montanez, Zivic, Garcia when they had big weight advantages on him. I know you don't think these guys are as good as Tszyu but I think they are pretty much.

 

He deserves to be in the IBHOF!! How he chickened dance punched Zab ****er, nobody can do it like Kostya can !!

 

Aaww still butthurt he beat your guy up? Get over it dude.

 

Took Tarver to a split decision too! spirit of the underdog!