The ridiculous cries of robbery

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Dec 19, 2010.


  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I watched the fight last night and like most people, I knew going into the 12th round that the scoring would be close. Pascal had scored two knockdowns, which meant that he only needed two of the other 10 rounds to get a draw. I thought he had a good start to the fight and won another of the first four rounds and a couple of the later rounds weren't that far apart.

    The problem here is the cries of a robbery. There is absolutely no problem with Canadian boxing, and it's a huge insult to their tremendous boxing scene, that people are crying about the decision. It was close and it's not hard to see why it was a draw.

    The big difference tonight and the reason why the fight was a draw? The fans. Listen to Richardson in the middle rounds - He says that Pascal is trying to steal the fight by throwing huge punches that he knows the crowd will respond to and it's absolutely true. When the crowd cheers massively for everything, the judges can be decieved because they can't see everything. Then when Hopkins lands a short right hand and you can hear a pin drop, that effects the judges too.

    Even if you though Hopkins won, that's fine. I have no issues with that. What I do have issues with is all the bitching and moaning from fans who don't understand what a pumped arena is like. That greatly effects the judges and that's why the calls for a robbery are over the top and ridiculous. All Pascal needed to get a draw, was two rounds and the crowd ensured he got that.

    Pathetic.
     
  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    It was too close of a fight to be called a robbery ..A draw was a fair decision ..
     
  3. painforall

    painforall Active Member Full Member

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    People are stupid in general but when it comes to boxing everything is magnified 1000x's. People just love screaming bloody murder if things don't go exactly the way they think it should have gone.
     
  4. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    :patsch It was still a Robbery. In my eyes it was 115 - 112 for Hopkins. The man is 45 years old. Jean Pascal is only 28. Hopkins won that fight and should be given credit for being the oldest boxer to win a major title.
    Its the same as being in school. You have a test. You get three more points then your classmate but he gets a 4 and you get a 3 cos the teacher doesn't like you as much. :tired
     
  5. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly people seem to conveniently forget the two knock downs!!! it's unreal!!! The way these folk would have you believe is that Hopkins won everything from start to finish. I was totally unsure that Pascal had done enough to get the win, and I did feel Hopkins may get it, but knowing that there had been two KDs by Pascal, meant it was always gonna be close on the cards unless Hopkins scored a KD of his own, which he didn't.

    No robbery here folks. If you you wanna see a robbery, go watch Huck V Lebedev.
     
  6. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is professional boxing not a old people's charity. What is his age got to do with the scoring of the fight? people keep bringing that up, yes Hopkins fought a hell of a fight for a 45 year old. Should we give him the win because of that? HELL NO.
     
  7. zoo

    zoo Active Member Full Member

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    I agree, after two knockdowns, the mathematics are no longer in your favor. A draw is a far decision under the 10 point must system. I know people are disappointed Hokpkins didn't set the record, but the decision was far from a robbery.
     
  8. Little Tyson

    Little Tyson Guest

    Christ since when did age matter when scoring in boxing. If that was the case Barrera v Khan would have been stopped by cut due to Khan being a young thug.
     
  9. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    You are off in your calculations here. That would mean that if he won 2 of the next 10, he had 4 rounds overall with two knockdowns and Hopkins had 8 rounds. So that would be 116-112, minus 2 extra points for knockdowns and it would be 114-112 Hopkins still. He needed 3 for the draw and 4 to win.
     
  10. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    with is so difficult to understand about it b-hop won 8 rounds he won the fight simple, it isnt a big robbery but almost everyone has him a clear winner and a few have it a draw.
     
  12. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    this is also exactly what happened by the way
     
  13. sosolid4u09

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    Pascal DID win 2 out of 10 rounds!
    Making it 114-112 HOPKINS!

    he would have to win 3 out of the other 10 for a draw.
    no way in hell did he win 3
     
  14. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I haven't seen the replay but should Hopkins have scored a knockdown late on in the fight.
     
  15. The_Chesco_Kid

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    I thought it was close too - I guess everyone did - and I wouldn't have been to surprised with a decision either way.

    Watching at home, I get somewhat influenced by the crowd and I figure others are too, but I hope the judges aren't as much.

    I don't have a problem with fighters genuinely feeling like they won a fight that was very close.