sergio mora is ranked higher (47) than haye (56). can that be right? also ranked higher than haye are devon alexander (50), andre dirrell (41), and steve cunningham (37).
Haye should be higher than all those people you mentioned. He beat ****ing SNV for god's sake. Unified cruiserweight champion also. I'm pretty sure none of those guys were unified champ. That **** on Caballero was rubbish too. I never liked Caballero and I don't see why the ring hypes him up so much.
Pathetic comeback, Haye has not been beaton since he was the undisputed champ at 200 lbs, so how the **** can you compare that to RJJ,Toney and Holyfield who have all been beat numerous times since they had there best wins. atsch
Except Haye hasn't been beaten and has since gone on to win a world title, whereas Toney was soundly outboxed by Sam Peter, Holyfield was beaten by Ibragimov and Valuev, and Jones was knocked out in a round against Danny Green. A bit of difference, don't you think? Ratings work by fighters moving up when they get a good win. Their stock doesn't fall completely unless they lose. Even though Jones fought horrible opponents, fight after fight, at one point, he still maintained his P4P #1 spot. Fighters don't lose rankings unless they lose and Haye hasn't lost.
Fair enough, my point was that he's been cherry picking opponents so he dosnt deserve to be high up on the list. He has the talent to be a lot higher but shouldn't be there just due to that. His heavyweight resume is poor for a world champ and its about time he fought an active opponent. Didn't holyfield beat valuev not long back also
Floyd Mayweather has been a genius cherry picker, and has fought on a per anum basis for 2 years now, with two retirements. He remains second in the Ring's list. As for people demanding to see the list, I'l put it up tomorrow if I have the required spare time. I was just mainly a bit taken aback by a publication I respect and is respected widely by many, to put up such outlandish ratings. I mean, I'm one of the few Margarito fans, but to have him in the top 30, pretty sure he's 23rd or something, is ridiculous and un-justifiable. And Haye is in my top 20, he was the Cruiser champ, with two high quality wins (Mormeck and Maccarinelli) that just seem to be glossed over outside of the UK, and the Valuev win is another example of a tough, close fight becoming known as an almost farcical non-victory for the Hayemaker afterwards.
Macca really wasnt a quality win he was **** and Valuev needed a gift draw to beat a 45 year old Holyfield in a fight and was already defeated nore convincingly by Chagaev. Hayes best wins are against a 36 year old Mormeck who was slightly above average and a 37 year old Valuev.. :deal if he ever finds his balls and fights top ten fighters regularly but as bad as the heavyweight division has been he sure still has found a way of avoiding the best. Im sorry but he belongs where he is.
Putting Haye to one side is this the best quote of the issue. "having beating Andrade, Miranda and Brinkley and thus achieving far more than those in the Super6 this year" on Lucian Bute.
Yes, I happened on that last night and had to have a long lie down in the dark with the curtains drawn. Life made even less sense at that point.