Imo the reason Calzaghe barely got by Hopkins is cause of Freddie Roach!

Too bad Calzaghe don't feel the same way you do since he refuse to fight Hopkins again in the rematch in which Hopkins even said he'll fight Calzaghe in the uk.

 

You can have an experience and all that nature but you always need a real good trainer. This was Roach second fight as Hopkins trainer while Nazim been with Hopkins for like 10 or more years. Nazim knows Hopkins better then anybody. If you think Trainers can't play a big part of a fighter wins or lose then no offense my friend but you don't know sh4t about boxing. Look at Tyson career. Without Rooney and the old trainer, Tyson wasn't the same unbeatable fighter he once was. Look what Steward has done with Both Lewis and Wlad, he made them a great boxers that use their height instead of going for the ko just like that. Another example imo thanks to Steward training he help Holyfield to beat Bowe in the rematch with better stratagy, better gameplan, better confident. You can say all you want but again in the Hopkins vs Calzaghe fight, Roach just couldn't give Hopkins right gameplan or anything like that. With Nazim i would have bet Hopkins would have beat Calzaghe in the rematch cause he'll give Hopkins better gameplan, better focused, better confident.

 

look man, I am a Margarito fan and was when he got owned vs Mosley. And still respect the guy.

But your hate for Naazim that stems from the moment when he disrupted Margarito's wrap controversy has you laughing with 3 smilies rolling on the floor on something that aint funny. So much so, you cant even score a simple fight such as Hopkins vs Pascal. Thats why you gave 6 rounds to Pascal.

Man get the **** outta here man.

 

1,2,3,8,10,12 for pascal....what's the big deal with that....

i've hated nazim since he admitted to the mind games in the trini scandal....what kind of man tries to mess with another mans food......i'll tell you....A ***** DOES

 

Its not that I dont think they can play a part, its just that when your as experienced as what Hopkins is, he is capable of adapting on the fly himself, the guy is 45 years old!, what in the ring, might he not of seen before? that's all im saying. Do you think Alton Merkerson had that big an impact on Roy Jones's career? he was more like a yes man than anything, yet Jones still achieved some heady heights. Take Floyd, I dont think Roger is a particularly great trainer to be honest, as he never seems to give detailed instruction of what Floyd should be doing, yet Floyd still adapts when he encounters problems. The irony of all this is, that Joe's dad was not a particularly good trainer imo, but Joe was renowned for being able to change up and adapt, so as I say, whilst it could of been a factor, its not as! important as I think your anticipating, not in this instance anyway, also, its not like Roach in his own right, is not a very good trainer.

Some fighters naturally more saavy than others, some have a higher Boxing IQ than others. Lewis's biggest flaw, aside from his chin, was his naivety.

Regarding Holy-Bowe, Steward had a blueprint to work off(the first fight), in terms of, what did'nt work, what did work for Holyfield in the spots when he was effective. Nazim if there were a Calzaghe rematch, would have the same luxury.

 

Calzaghe didn't want that because it was an absolute snooze-fest first time thanks to Hopkins negative tactics.

It would have only been the same second time.

 

I agree. Freddie knows all the best drugs

 

Fair enough. I hate Enzo Calzaghe for thinking he is a don. I got ma reasons you got your reasons.

12th was close, but Pascal was running away, Hopkins landed 7 more punches and threw 22 more than Pascal in the 12th.

U a Mexican boxing fan, how you going to give a round to a guy running away?
Pascal pre fight was saying he is willing to die in the ring, he dont deserve no rounds for running away from a man 18 years older than him, who wears false teeth.

8th round, Pascal did the same ****, but last 10 seconds threw one hook.

10th round 2 out of 3 judges gave it to Hopkins, one gave it a draw.

 

hopkins fights based on his opponent. taylor and calzaghe never threatened him, and so he took it easy and schooled them defensively. of course, boxing economics gives the fight to the younger undefeated fighter who can generate more revenue in the future. of course this tactic backfired for promoters, but seriously did calzaghe land more than 3 real punches the whole fight?

 

Hopkins was schooling Calzaghe there was nothing for Roach to say.

 

Calzaghe beat Hopkins, even went to America and fought him! It was not close, Calzaghe was just too fast. Taylor beat Hopkins!

 

As I've said on here many times before, I am a big Hopkins fan but he always reduces himself in many peoples estimations by being such a bad loser.

Hopkins v Taylor - Close but Taylor a deserved wiinner on both occassions.

Hopkins v Calzaghe - Not even close, how some can objectively believe Hopkins won this fight with doing so little is beyond me.

Pascal v Hopkins - On the surface it looked as if Hopkins shaded it but fighting in the champion's hometown and suffering two knockdowns he can hardly expect any favouurs.

I love where BH has come from and the adversity he has overcome to get where he is but truly great fighters would already be thinking about the rematch instead of bitching about desicions which could have gone wither way.

Pascal has already said he will give him a rematch, so he should stop whining like a ***** and focus on the rematch

 

nazim, roach, john david jackson were all training bhop and he still couldn't beat calzaghe, 3 world class trainers and he still got raped

 

Nonsense. Roach had the right gameplan, which is the same plan Robin Reid used when he beat Calzaghe and got robbed by the judges. Hit Calzaghe with the overhand right (not as a counterpunch) and Calzaghe will be helpless. But Calzaghe was always on the offensive. BHop did well for a few rounds but then Calzaghe took over, too much stamina and workrate.

 

What a load of rubbish. Calzaghe clearly won, in America with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref. The only reason it was a SD is because the one bias judge gave Hopkins round 11 a clear Calzaghe round, the other 2 judges scored wide for Calzaghe, so lets not pretend it was a scrape by for Calzaghe, it was a clear Calzaghe win