Jean Pascal is the epitome of this feeble era of boxing.

:good

 

They all would've not only whooped Pascal, they'd have beaten the Hopkins of last night as well. Some of those guys would've destroyed him.

Put Bernard in the meat grinder of the middleweight division (he probably wouldn't have lasted long enough to make it up to light heavyweight) from the 20's-50's and he'd be retired or out of championship contention about 10 years younger. Putting him in to the 70's and 80's Light heavyweight division is something only a hater would do.

You seem to be resenting Pascal, but let's not forget that Hopkins himself has benefited more from the decline in the level of quality depth than Pascal has. Hopkins would've been successful in any era, don't get me wrong- but there's no way he accomplishes what he did in them. So unless you're willing to knock off Hopkins' all-time standing accordingly, putting all the dissing on Pascal is a bit hypocritical.

 

Even Froch beat the living **** out of pascal.

It's pretty dumb how people now have Hopkins beating the likes of Hagler and Leonard both would have destroyed him.

 

Great fighters have a certain quality that others simply lack. We saw a very, very clear example of this last night. Pascal basically folded midway through when he had virtually no reason to, and Hopkins, who had every reason - from age, to the knockdowns, to a hostile crowd, and already steller achievements to hang his hat on - trudged on with indomitable will.

Pascal, tough and athletic as he may be, isn't anything special. We saw that last night when he was faced with someone who is.

 

how does it make any difference where it was fought? 3 judges , 1 american, 1 european, and 1 canadian...the american was the only one who scored it different....(or in other words....biased)

 

Do I have to choose?

 

Pavlik beating Monzon is definitely worse. Pavlik's boxing iq is around neanderthal levels

 

Jesus, I guess that I (thankfully) wasn't paying enough attention to all of the BS that was being spewed when the Pavlik hype was at its peak. Were there actually people making that claim?

 

My bad. Your exact words were "45 year old man who hasn't stopped anyone since 2004 and has suffered from clear stamina problems in previous fights due to his age."

It must've been Riddick Bowe you were talking about, then.

A straw man argument was built (many had Pascal ranked top 10 P4P? Hopkins not knocking out people makes him easier to beat? You rag on his conditioning, yet he only gassed out vs Calzaghe- who you somehow had Hopkins beating by 4 points anyways!:blood) Then, when I mention that Hopkins would've been torn up in the same scenario you put Pascal in and benefits from the same weak era as Pascal does, you play stupid and say Hopkins didn't have anything to do with anything in the first place. Classic. :rofl

 

clouds a warrior bro

 

no 46 year old should be beating on a 27 year old who just won the championship belt.

foremans the exception he fought ali and joe frazier
big george does wtf he wants