Who ranks higher Felix Trinidad or Joe Calzaghe. ATG ranks.

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  1. Ring Master

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    Don't forget Jake Rodriguez. Kosta won his IBF title from Jake. Jake and Tito had a hell of a fight early in their careers. Jake put up a tough fight and was in great shape. He was so muscular compared to the skinny baby faced Tito. It goes the distance but Tito puts him down twice I believe with some beautiful straight rights.
     
  2. horst

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    Winky Wright was a great fighter, greater than Joe Calzaghe.

    Oscar De La Hoya was a great fighter, greater than Joe Calzaghe.

    But the point remains: all three were better than ANY fighter Joe ever fought. End of story.

    Saying that Calzaghe is a better fighter than Tito because Tito has losses and Calzaghe has none is the kind of ******ed response I would expect from you. It's so easy and obvious to start citing examples which destroy that point that I don't even think I'll bother doing so this time.

    And that still leaves us with the facts that Tito won titles in more weight classes, and has a better resume. :good
     
  3. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe had trouble with Hopkins, and Reid. For whom it can be argued they beat Calzaghe, but Calzaghe wasnt a risk taker like Tito, so didnt give rematches. He only gave one, to Mario Veit.

    If Balls and courage is part of the criteria to see who is the best, Calzaghe ranks close to the bottom.
     
  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Joe beats prime 168 DLH, a prime 190 Hopkins or a prime 175 Winky.

    Calzaghe wouldn't get schooled by an 175 pound prime Winky, but he'd lose imo, and I think Tito would have mowed down a 154 version of old Hopkins if he was stalling for breath against Calzaghe....

    Would Calzaghe beat a prime 175 version of Vargas? I have my doubts.....

    All this speculation aside, Tito obviously got the job done to a much greater extent than Calzaghe did which would give him the edge even if you give Calzaghe the honours in h2h ability and dominance (the latter being highly questionable given Tito's reign in three weight classes...)
     
  5. Starched Him

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    Tito Collected 3 Gold Medals

    Tito is the Greater
     
  6. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Added, safe for that, I just looked in Youtube didnt see the fight there, but probably come across it some other time.
     
  7. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont think this guy likes Purto ricans lol

    slappy is greater then cotto

    but not tito
     
  8. Whytey

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    Joe Calzaghe was a backyard fighter.[/quote]


    So are the majority of american fighters.eg hopkins. apart from pascal i can recall him ighting outside america much
     
  9. Ring Master

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    So are the majority of american fighters.eg hopkins. apart from pascal i can recall him ighting outside america much[/quote]

    He was robbed in Ecudor early in his career. And B-hop was never the A-side to any Promotion I can think of except Tarver.
     
  10. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    Nice one.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

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    1. Yes but he arguably won at least 1 of the Collins bouts 2years before

    2. Pretty short retirement, and yes he had bouts in the interim, so not too ring rusty but could have done with better comp

    3. True, Eubank was pretty drained, but he always drained to make 168, albeit he was more drained for this fight none the less

    4. Yep comp wasnt very good

    5. 'lost/won' matey, allot of us had him beating Thompson at 185lbs and yes Thompson lost to an excellent champion in Jonny Nelson, no shame in that, plus some thought that was a premature stoppage. Thompson went onto stop David Haye

    6. What the hell does Audley have to do with anything?

    Fact remains, Calzaghes win over Eubank is a very good 1, especially the way he dominated. Eubanks: 'we can see why Steve Collins didnt want to fight him now'
     
  12. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know what, I dont really think Eubank was shot, past his best yes, but shot is something like Roy Jones now.

    I was just comparing him to Pernell Whitaker that faced Trinidad in relation to this thread, when that guy said Sweet pea was shot, maybe Eubank wasnt as shot as sweet pea but just that.

    Calzaghe UD Eubank is similar to Trinidad UD Sweet pea.

    Both young up comers decisioning some veterans.
     
  13. box101

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    felix by wide margin ww dominater for years an one of most exciting an best finishers of our time joe definitly world class but not tito class spoon fed entire career an never fought top fighters in there prime execept maybe kessler an lacy and at end of of his fight career had oppurtunity to fight young dawson but declined rather keep his 0 an that is fine an all but everything that glitters aint gold an that is why he will never revered as great cuz those ? will always loom an the same reason people like atg felix tito trinidad will always be revered as great despite his loses cuz he took those leaps to fight bigger challenges an his legacy is cemented ....
     
  14. PowerPuncher

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    Trinidad wasnt a risk taker himself, at least his management werent. A pretty weak WW run until he faced Delahoya who schooled him. Whitaker was a shot crackhead, Carr/Campas were good solid B Level comp. Vargas and Reid were very green and never A Class. B Class Joppy.

    Everytime Trinidad faced an A Class boxer in their prime he got dominated
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    I'd say this has some merit, I think Eubank was less shot but he was struggling with weight and was never as good as Pea, then again tito had massive size advantages here