Huck or Lebedev?

I'm not German, but why does Germany get so much stick on the robbery issue?!
Of course it's bad over there, but most of the worst robberies of the past few years were in the good ol' US of A. So USA = Robbery?
It's everywhere and it has to stop. If a boxer visits another country he almost always gets the short straw, and it's everywhere. Only more clear in the US because so many fights are held there, and Germany because of their bad name.

To anwer the question... Leb should have won it.

 

I think its the most obvious and common in Germany, only guys that didnt get robbed there in recent memory were haye and chambers.
But yes all home town fights are biased, even in the us if its a hypejob vs unknown fighter the uinknown guy gets screwed over.
But how do you stop the hometown robberies, its very difficult to make that change.

 

This. Both were hometwon decisions. But not robberies. I thought Hopkins won more clearer than Lebedev. I can see the arguments for Pascal and Huck though. There should be rematches.

 

That´s just bs. Tell me who was robbed there? Most of the so called robberies are just close fights blown out of proportion because they happened in Germany. For example an relative unknown guy without a striong promoter like Gulyakovich beats a German headliner like Tajbert in a close fight in Germany, that could have gone to Tajbert actually, I scored it 115-113 for Gulyakevich. But yeah, of course that doesn´t fit the bill and so get´s ignored. Instead close fights like Sylvester-Karmazin, I had Sylvester winning, or Huck-Lebedev, I had Lebedev 115-113, get blown out of proportion. But okay, every fighter who comes to Germany and doesn´t get knocked out claims to have been robbed and there are enough people dumb enough to believe it. Like you. Sorry but robberies are as common in Britain, the US, France or anywhere.

But then one doesn´t need to wonder. Most people on here give every round to the fighter who stumbles forward throwing punches and ignore the rest of the game. I couldn´t care less about them.

 

Oki lets make a little list:
huck-lebedev
lukas vs beyer
sven ottke vs robin reid ( and many others)
sturm vs gevor
valuev vs holyfield
Valuev vs ruiz
zbik vs spada
raoui vs kentikian
sylvester vs karmazin
stieglitz vs ornelas

Say whatever you want but its well known that if you dont put on a dominant display you will get robbed in Germany if it goes to the point if youw in 8-4 or 7-5 you will lose on the cards, just like lebedev few days ago. I was suprised that haye got the decision vs valuev.

 

This fits for nearly all fights but Ottke-Reid and Valuev-Holyfield (which wasn´t even in Germany ). Thanks for proving my point.

 

Ah the old take one point out to take away the whole argument.
You dont have to so angry about it anyway. Its common sense that Its very difficult to win a decision in germany. And not all were clsoe fights a lot of 8-4 9-3 fights and yes some 7-5. And swiss robbery doesnt sound right anyway.

 

German is like Rotten Apple when it comes to Boxing and Fair sports.

It is not only those Home Town decisions/robberies but the whole system.

Krauts Does Everything their Guy will Win there, Literally.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIL0Ussbjpc[/ame]

7.10 mark Damn Slimy Germans

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoSA2_2RmzU&feature=related[/ame]
2.12 Mark f'ing Referee Picking Sebastian sylvester Up when he was KNOCKED DOWN.atsch

I remember when these Fights were these Germans at Forum act like nothing suspicious happened. Especially when their German Hero Sebastian Sylvester were given his Crown Back

 

1. Which argument? You have none other than your opinion.
2. I´m not angry. I don´t even like most of those fighters on this list. And this is the internet, as if I would care about the opinion of some geeks. I´m bored that´s all.
3. "Common sense" is not an argument. That´s: most people think so, so I think so too. Billions of flies love sh*t. Do you too?
4. Yes, all of those fights but the oney I mentioned were close, if you know how to score a fight. I bet you haven´t even seen all of those fights.

 

Yeah, because Hernandez won the fight.

And f*cking hell, Asikainen lost this fight, get over it. The only controversy there was the one the Finns like you made up.

 

god damn you are bad guy. Then again History has shown time after time of what You Germans have made off:yep

Kraut is Kraut.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Volunteer_Battalion_of_the_Waffen-SS

Finnish is Finnish. :good