wtf did Kostya Tszyu do to get into the HOF ????

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  1. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always believed after seeing how Tszyu beat the **** out of Chavez that not much would change in JC Chavez Prime.

    I mean ive seen tape from like last year or something like that were Chavez Sr is Sparring with Chavez Jr and Senior was beating the **** out Junior.

    So it looked like he hadnt lost any plus i feel that Prime Tszyu the one we seen from 1999 to 2003 was ****ing one tough SOB.

    I feel and the Mexican fans on here can make all the excuses in the world but Tszyu beats a Prime Chavez.
     
  2. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A real collection of killers:

    Meldrick was never the Champ at JWW or WW. With another ref you have a Meldrick SD win.
    JL Ramirez was tough but slow as mollases.
    Rosario shouldn't be in the HOF.
    Rocky Lockridge: Juan Laporte leftovers. Barely beat him.
    Roger Mayweather........
    Randall won the second fight as well and Chavez quit. Didn't like getting cut at all, Chavez. Randall was a decent fighter but old --33/34-- for both fights. Primo Ramos knocked him out in his prime in 2 rounds.

    Is this the resume of a TOP30 ATG?


    A 43 year old zombie-like Frankie Randall? :lol:

    You brought up Rafael Limon? "Dementia Pugilistica" Limon?

    Juan Laporte was 32 and had just given Azumah Nelson a very tough and close fight.
    Mayweather was 34. He was game but only managed to survive and spoil.
     
  3. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can say they are as **** as you want, bottom line, Tszyu never beat anyone as good as them, so be my guest and continue to shoot yourself in the foot.

    Noticed you didn't try and dissect the other guys I listed which I equated with Tszyu's resume - why not?


    Was the Calvin Grove that Tszyu beat any better?

    Like I said, anyone that counts the Chavez win for Tszyu deserves something as absurd as an ancient Rafael Limon thrown at them.

    Ah, no, he had just been clearly outboxed by Hector Lopez. He fought Nelson a good two years before hand.

    Mayweather was cashing in his chips and nothing more by this time.
     
  4. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chavez's resume is certainly underwhelming for an ATG. Even more so for someone who is rated as a TOP30 ATG.

    He never beat a great fighter but was beaten by great fighters.

    He has the accomplishments and longevity but his resume is only good not great.
     
  5. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think what Casa122 is saying and i agree with him 100 ****ing percent.

    Meldrick Taylor is about if you look at his resume about as good as Zab Judah.

    Both have simular records Ive looked.

    But the one thing Judah has that Taylor does not is he for a short time was Undisputed Champ at Welterweight.

    And we all know what Tszyu did to Judah in 2 ****ing Rounds and that was a Judah that was Ego driven and never even tasted defeat.

    A Judah that took 4 of the first rounds against a Prime Floyd Mayweather.

    If you really look closely Zab Judah is on the same level and Taylor.

    So the best way i can look at it is like this.

    Imagine Kostya Tszyu fighting a undefeated Meldrick Taylor and KOing him a 2 rounds would that shut you up.

    Oh and by the way Judah has had more title fights than Meldrick and defended his title more times.

    I bet all i get back is oh Meldrick was a beast. A beast at what i say and i have seen Taylor fight.

    This is Taylor's record in Title fghts the fights that count.

    140 IBF
    W12TKO Buddy McGirt
    W7RTD John Meekins
    W12UD Courtney Hooper
    L12TKO Julio C Chavez

    147 WBA World Title
    W12UD Aaron Davis
    W12SD Luis Garcia
    W12UD Glenwood Brown

    154 WBC
    L4TKO Terry Norris

    147 WBA
    L8TKO Crisanto Espana

    140 WBC
    L8TKO Julio C Chavez

    Also at the age of 30 Taylor lost to 13-3 Darren Macuinski (Who The **** or WTF is that)

    Now Tszyu gets heaps for losing to Vince Phillips but Phillips went on to be a decent Champ and even Defended.

    Judah on the other hand is
    140 IBF
    W4KO Jan Bergman
    W12UD Junior Witter
    W4TKO Terron Millett
    W8TKO Hector Quiroz
    W10TKO Reggie Green
    W3KO Allan Vester
    L2TKO Kostya Tszyu (WBC,WBA,IBF)

    140 WBO
    W12SD Demarcus Corley
    W1KO Jaime Rangel

    147 WBC,WBA,IBF
    L12UD Cory Spinks
    W9TKO Cory Spinks
    W3TKO Cosme Rivera

    147 WBC
    L12UD Carlos Baldomir

    147 IBF
    L12UD Floyd Mayweather

    147 WBA
    L11TKO Miguel Cotto

    147 IBF
    L9TD Joshua Clottey

    Now Ive looked and read it is there much difference in Taylors resume to Judah's.

    I just Dissected Meldrick Taylor and if his resume is about as good as Judah's what does that say about Kostya Tszyu.

    Start getting a ****ing clue.

    if you want me to tear apart more resume with actual facts by way of statistics i will do it all ****ing week to prove a point.

    I Proved a point with Tszyu's resume compared to Aaron Pryors and im still waiting to hear a ****ing Comeback for that one.

    That was 20 Pages ago and still NOTHING.

    And now by dissecting Judah and Taylors resume i just made him look about as Good as Zab. With Facts. Yet im supposed to sit here and listen to Opinions when people look and only are remembering on Bias.

    Oh how good was Meldrick you guys remember was he a Beast. Oh wait a minute is that the same Meldrick that Lost to Darren Maciunski n his Prime. ****.
     
  6. rushman

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    Don't forget that Judah was not as good after he lost to Zoo. He had lost a bit of his edge from that defeat.

    So Zoo annihilated a better version of Judah than the one who won the first four rounds against prime Mayweather.
     
  7. BoppaZoo

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    Nice Rushman another Fact. Yet these dicks are in La la land.

    You compare Taylor and Judah and there pretty much the same yet i heard somewhere on this thread someone saying Meldrick will KO Kostya.

    Comical this thread.

    We put up Facts they put up Fantasy.:deal:good
     
  8. freddy-wak

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    hard to believe that kostya went in with chavez...i mean, look at the ****en difference between a HOF resume, and a good one....:-(
     
  9. Casamayor122

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    It's all about who beat them. If Tszyu beat Meldrick Taylor and Rosario you'd get the same they were ****/not that good responses you get for the opposition Tszyu beat.
     
  10. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    kirk agreed with one thing that andre said...i'm sure if kirk came back to this thread after reading what many of us have posted, he would definately have 2nd thoughts.....

    and i aint trying to be a troll bro, but you gotta take what i said into consideration....kostya was a hell of a fighter, but his resume is ****en weak....i know his accomplishments at 140 hadn't been done in over 30 years, but that's when you gotta take a look at his opponents....sure it aint been unified in over 30 years, and that's mainly cause 140 is always a weak division, but come on homie, MITCHELL AND JUDAH....those are his best victories and when you stack that next to what chavez did and his resume, it almost makes me wanna throw up....

    :good
     
  11. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    pryor is before my time...but he's ****en garbage in my book......:good
     
  12. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    wow...just wow
     
  13. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    please god tell me you're talking about kostya and not chavez.....
     
  14. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are we looking at? I see a good resume not a great resume. Maybe with mexican 3d glasses it looks better? :think
     
  15. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    no way in hell does taylor go down in 2 rounds...
    taylor was all around a better "fighter" that made you fight and tested your balls and will...judah was always a quick fighter looking for one shot, not the kind of fighter that brings out the very best in you.....


    and i dont remember dogging judah, in fact i said that was his best win......but now what, you're gonna jump down a few grades and tell me that mitchell stacks up with the guys that chavez fought ????