Just rewatched pascal vs hopkins on demand and i must say....

I still agreed with Tarver's score, 112-114 Pascal. Pascal had two knockdowns! American media spin does not change my mind.

 

:goodCongrats, champ! I agree with everything you said.

 

I first watched the fight without sound and I was surprised that nobody was questioning the knockdowns, when I watched the showtime replay I could see why, the commentators said it was okay so all the sheep on here believe they were legit. Tarver had an obvious bias against Hopkins.
I had the fight:
1- Pascal 10-8
2- even 10-10
3- Pascal 10-8
4- Hopkins 10-9
5- even 10-10
6- Hopkins 10-9
7- Hopkins 10-9
8- Hopkins 10-9
9- Hopkins 10-9
10- Hopkins 10-9
11- Hopkins 10-9
12- even 10-10

116-111 Hopkins. I feel that the knockdowns weren't legit especially the first one. The second was a left hook to the chest, give that knockdown to Pascal and the ref should've given the one to Hopkins in the later round that landed to Pascals arm and he went over. Hopkins didn't lose a round in this fight, he was winning the rounds with the knockdowns and I felt I was being generous to Pascal giving the second and fifth rounds even. A scorecard favoring Pascal astounds me, this was a robbery.

 

Punches behind the head are illegal. Like it or not. Some Americans are inconsistent. So? What does it matter? Fact is fact. Like it or not.

The crowd was Pascal´s. They see what they want to see. The ref made a bad call. Tarver was biased throughout the fight.

Where did I say everyone making a bad call in Canada? I wrtoe his was one. There is a difference. What´s o hard to understand about "I´m neither" when talking about the US or Canada?

I haven´t seen Hopkins hurt once in that fight. :huh If you don´t think this fight was controversial you should stop watching boxing. It wasn´t a robbery but it damned sure was controversial.

 

yes very good post :good Hopkins is still a great fighter and Pascal did to him what fighters never do. It wasn't so one sided for Hopkins as some would have us believe. It was a good fight though.

 

They robbed him, plain and simple. A draw was the best result for them, make it seem fair.

LOL at expectations being high for Pascal. There was a few of us picking Hopkins and what we see is Hopkins beating him up almost every round. If that fight was correctly called and judged there is no way it is even close. Hopkins lands very cleanly to the head and body.

 

Round 1: Jean Pascal 10-8
Round 2: Bernard Hopkins 10-9
Round 3: Jean Pascal 10-8
Round 4: Bernard Hopkins 10-9
Round 5: Jean Pascal 10-9
Round 6: Bernard Hokins 10-9
Round 7: Bernard Hopkins 10-9
Round 8: Bernard Hopkins 10-9
Round 9: Bernard Hopkins 10-9
Round 10: Bernard Hopkins 10-9
Round 11: Bernard Hopkins 10-9
Round 12: Jean Pascal 10-9

That was my card though I've only watched it once. 114-112 for Hopkins. I could have given Pascal round 10 aswell making it a draw. Not a robbery to be honest, he made it difficult for himself with the knockdowns. Without those he probably would have won and people might have a case for crying robbery.

 

Hopkins did not beat Pascal up almost every round, 2 rounds contained knock downs, and there were a few other close rounds. Why the hell can't most of you seem to understand that???

 

You're right. That was a close fight and that's something fun to watch. People should stop to cry and be happy that there will be a rematch.

 

That makes 116-113, not 116-111. Judges rarely give a 10-10 round. That's a special way of scoring.

About the KDs: judges give the kd almost all of the time when the fighter goes down after a scoring punch. Hopkins went twice to the canvas. the first time, the punch was on the side of the head, with Hopkins turning his head. When PAscal went down, it wasn't after a scoring punch. You don't fall because you receive a punch on the arm, sorry. He was unbalanced, as Hopkins in another round. Because Hopkins went down three times, remember?

 

You sure Pascal won a round? Check it again, you'll see, it's a 120-108 Hopkins.

 

Were you all over the place pointing out the outrage KO at the end of Green-Johnson? By your logic, that makes it an illegal KO.

Johnson-Green II !!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!

 

My bad, 116-113. A 10-10 round isn't special, it should be common in rounds that are hard to split so scores are more accurate, otherwise in a close fight you're just guessing who won the round and you're going to get a controversial decision. A 10-10 round takes out the guess work.

Hopkins didn't turn his head into the punch, he was in a position and Pascal threw a cuffing punch round the back off the head, he should of got a warning, not a knockdown. Just watched when Pascal went down, it was actually a punch to the head and Pascal went over Hopkins feet because it knocked him off balance, it shouldn't have been a knockdown but it was as legit as the knockdowns given to Pascal.

 

When I say Hopkins didn't lose a round, I mean that he was also winning the rounds where Pascal was awarded those bogus knockdowns. Without the knockdowns I would've scored the fight 120-111.

 

Lefty, can you buy the replay with your cable provider?

If yes, buy it, you will be shock. I thought Hopkins won as well but if I can change my mind, I'm sure some will as well. Pascal shot has been harder all night. The fifth round is a must to see.