Pascal: "Close rounds should always be given to the champion"

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    No, close rounds should go to, the guy who won the round.

    Pascal should probably just be happy he got to keep his belts.
     
  2. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is a better analogy.
     
  3. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No it doesn't. There is about a million to one chance that there will be an exact tie and the umpire is there to make the decision on whether the ball or the runner was first. If you break things down by millisecond, there likely has never been a "tie" ever in baseball. Where in the rule book does is state that if ball arrives simultaneously with the runner, the runner is safe?

    What gets me are passive -aggressive douches :bart
     
  4. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well its better than in Germany with Sven Ottke fights their saying was - 'If the Champion is standing , give him the round'.
     
  5. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah, except in baseball its either one way or another. In boxing we can have ties with the 10 point must system. If neither guy wins the round, give them each 10 points.
     
  6. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he has to rationalize his loss to b hop somehow right?
     
  7. globenerd

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    It says that the throw or tag must beat the runner to the base or plate. (here you might check above and note a paragraph break, where I cease reporting what the rule book says, and explain what that means in the event of a simultaneous arrival).

    Insisting, by means of your own unscientific assumption, that there has never been a tie in baseball history, does not necessarily lead to your even less scientific assumption, that the rule doesn't sufficiently spell out what the call should be in case a tie were to someday take place.

    But since umpires don't have the benefit if high-speed camera-type vision, there have been plays that look like the ball and runner arrive simultaneously. In those instances, a good umpire will, according to the rulebook, call those runners safe.
     
  8. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're the one stating something as fact based on your interpretation of the rulebook. Show me where it says that the runner must arrive before or at the same time as the ball in order to be called safe and I will concede defeat.
     
  9. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    I will quote the rule book below, but I wish you would take a really close look at what you've asked me to prove. Because another way of putting your question is "Show me where the rule book states that a runner can't be ruled safe just because the throw beat him to the base."

    section 6.05 states, "A batter is out when after he hits a fair ball, he or first base is tagged before he touches first base."

    What you seem to be missing here is my use of the words "by default" in my first post. Since it says "before he touches the base", and since a simultaneous arrival between ball and runner is not "before" the runner, then it's supposed to be called safe.
     
  10. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont buy the 'you have to rip the title from the champion' crap.

    If you win more rounds than the other guy, you win. Simple.

    If a round is so close they you cannot decide a winner then it should be scored 10-10. Again, simple.
     
  11. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    the rule implies that "tie goes to the runner".

    It's true that in physical time, ties never occur. But the umpire's perception is finite, and apparent simultaneity is a perceptual reality.
     
  12. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    Pascal needs to bury his head in the sand for not beating a 46 year-old grandpa, and needing his hometown judges to get a majority draw. The only hope for the young generation is Tavoris Cloud, who by the way would destroy Pascal in a matter of minutes.
     
  13. Firestarter

    Firestarter Active Member Full Member

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    If I remember correct, then Froch was the champion, because Kessler lost his belt to ward, the fight before :hey
     
  14. dru626

    dru626 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I saw rounds 2 & 8 as even rounds.
     
  15. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    your right! it was the kessler should get close rounds because he is the hometownfighter...